recommended load/bullet/primer for 700ML

[pathfndr]

hi folks, new to this board. I now live in elk country, hoping to pull a permit for muzzleloader season next year, and if I'm lucky, will be looking for good loads, etc. to use in my Rem 700 ml.

In the past, I've deer hunted with this gun using Pyro RS ffg, buffalo bullets in 350 grain, and Remington 209 primers.

Buffalo bullets apparently are not made anymore, so thinking about hornady great plains 385's, and switching to T7 powder and primers. Would be open to other bullets but don't know much about them on elk.

Remington recommends a range of 90- 120 grains powder for a 385 lead conical, with 120 being max charge in this gun.

Any suggestions for a good combo that will work on elk? I'm a believer in making the first shot count, and going for a double lung shot if possible.

[sabotloader]

pathfndr

Well darn am I glad you asked....











The only thing I would change today is I would be using a Lehigh .458/300 grain bullet, with the MMP Orange .457-.458/50 cal sabot 110 grains of T7-2f, and w209 primer.

[pathfndr]

wow, Sabotloader, thanks for the detailed info! You say this was a through and through? Where'd you find the bullet? Nice petals, must have had extensive shock power once it opened up. Not familiar with either bullet, can I assume that the lehigh is an easily obtained bullet, and there is a separate sabot to use that fits it? I've only shot buffalo bullets since getting the gun about 12 years ago. What kind of groupings do you get with the different bullets?

[builder459]

Originally Posted by pathfndr

hi folks, new to this board. I now live in elk country, hoping to pull a permit for muzzleloader season next year, and if I'm lucky, will be looking for good loads, etc. to use in my Rem 700 ml.

In the past, I've deer hunted with this gun using Pyro RS ffg, buffalo bullets in 350 grain, and Remington 209 primers.

Buffalo bullets apparently are not made anymore, so thinking about hornady great plains 385's, and switching to T7 powder and primers. Would be open to other bullets but don't know much about them on elk.

Remington recommends a range of 90- 120 grains powder for a 385 lead conical, with 120 being max charge in this gun.

Any suggestions for a good combo that will work on elk? I'm a believer in making the first shot count, and going for a double lung shot if possible.

If you have to shoot conicals, i would look at the no- excuse or bullshops conicals.if not the bullet that sabotloader mentioned is a good one, as is the 300 gr speer gold dot/deep curl and the barnes 300 gr expander mz. all excellent elk medicine!

[sabotloader]

Originally Posted by pathfndr

wow, Sabotloader, thanks for the detailed info! You say this was a through and through? Where'd you find the bullet? Nice petals, must have had extensive shock power once it opened up. Not familiar with either bullet, can I assume that the lehigh is an easily obtained bullet, and there is a separate sabot to use that fits it? I've only shot buffalo bullets since getting the gun about 12 years ago. What kind of groupings do you get with the different bullets?

When we first looked at the animal - I had holes on both sides of the chest... so I assumed a pass thru... When we got it home and skinned it I found the bullet in the right front leg - jamed up against the big bone...

There was a huge amount of internal shock - enough to over ride the animals instinct to run.... The lungs were liquid dark red jello and only a portion of the hear remained identifiable.

The .458/300 grain Nosler Partition Protected Point is very common bullet amoung 45-70 shooters....

http://www.nosler.com/Bullets/Partition.aspx

Well shoot they do not offer the .458/300 grain partition any longer... Glad I still have a few boxes.... but I guess it really does not matter as I have made the switch to Lehighs.

These are some of the different Lehigh bullets...



This is a picture of the orginal Lehigh .458/300 grain (45-70) bullet and a Barnes all copper bullet.



This is the new Lehigh .458/300 grain DOA, designed for a muzzleloader. I would like to think I had something to do with this design.



This is the Lehigh 50 cal - 270 grain Sabotless Conical we are working on it is not available yet but it is really an awesome bullet...



Here is a target - shooting a Knight DISC and the Lehigh bullets...



The Lehigh are a very accurate bullet...

And as mentioned the Speer .452/300 grain Deep Curl is a very effective bullet.

[pathfndr]

Again, thanks, Sabotloader! I especially value the pics, now I know what to look for.