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Old 12-18-2010, 05:10 AM   #1
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A sabot recommendation. Bought a box of Speer Gold Dot (.452) 250gr GDHP bullets. The sabots I've been able to find locally are MMP .451, or Harvester .452. Which one should I try? Or both maybe?
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Old 12-18-2010, 05:27 AM   #2
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MMP HPH 24's
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Well like how much accuracy you try for that can be a personal choice.
Personally I determine what will fit and try every thing that will work since barrel whip or vibration enters into it. If they fit right they should shoot decent but you could be talking about the difference between a 1inch group and a 2 inch group, which some people care about and some don't.
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Old 12-18-2010, 07:34 AM   #4
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I would greatly depend on which rifle you are shooting. Your bore size will detirmine which 451/452 x 50 sabot you might need.
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I would greatly depend on which rifle you are shooting. Your bore size will detirmine which 451/452 x 50 sabot you might need.
Thanks all. The rifle is a CVA Kodiak Pro .50 cal. A 2" 3 shot group is OK for hunting IMO. Terminal performance is important also. Appreciate all advice.
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Old 12-18-2010, 02:40 PM   #6
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The MMP HPH-24, Harvester Short Black or Long Black - should fit it, but I might suggest a Harvester Crush Rib to make sure...

Have you shot a sabot with a .452 bullet before?... i shoulda asked that in the first place....
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The MMP HPH-24, Harvester Short Black or Long Black - should fit it, but I might suggest a Harvester Crush Rib to make sure...

Have you shot a sabot with a .452 bullet before?... i shoulda asked that in the first place....
Only about a 100 through this rifle, that came with sabots.
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Only about a 100 through this rifle, that came with sabots.
Have you got any of them left?

Assuming that they are black... Look at the bottom of the sabot in the powder cup. Does the cup have sort of a stair step effect on the inside wall or is smooth cup with a small production tit right in the center of the cup?

Or... on last option - on the outside of the petals, are the petals smooth or do they have shallow ridges?

How did they load for you? To tight - to loose or just right
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The ones I have with a production tit and a smooth cup are for .429 bullets, the ones with a tapered cup are for .452. Both load OK.
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The ones I have with a production tit and a smooth cup are for .429 bullets,
Those will be Harvester

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the ones with a tapered cup are for .452.
I am not understanding the term 'tapered' assuming they are stepped on the side so they are MMP sabots....

And since you are loading the Harvester's I would bet the 451-452's a MMP HPH-24's
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