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Old 10-25-2010, 07:01 PM   #1
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Default First Session with the .32 Pedersoli as a FLINTLOCK

Sunday morning I had my first range session with the .32 Pedersoli Frontier in its flintlock configuration.



All in all, it wasn't the happiest range session I've ever had. I shot nine 5-shot targets at 25 yards. Although some of the groups approached what I thought this gun should do at that range, most were far from satisfactory.

I did learn a few things.

1. After the first shot from a clean bore, I decided to load a second shot without swabbing the bore. That was a BIG mistake. Got the ball ten or twelve inches down the bore and it hung up big time. It took putting all the stress I could to the thin hickory rod to get it to move another two inches. From there on it was a few inches at a time with quite a bit of effort, and that's a l-o-n-g barrel.

I swabbed with one side of an alcohol patch after that experience and never had another loading problem for the remaining 43 shots. I've read several reports claiming that small bores don't foul any more than larger bores. That sure wasn't my experience with this gun.

2. The L&R lock did not seem to be as good a sparker as the lock on my Lyman Great Plains. I had a number of "klatches" with no ignition of the prime. That's happened only three or four times with the Great Plains in several hundred shots, and each time it was due to a loose flint.

Well, to be fair, I must admit that I may have contributed to it's performance. First, the flint I had on hand were not quite as large as they should be for this lock. Second, I shot most of the session with the flint positioned bevel down. I put the bevel up for the last six or seven shots and had no problems during those shots. Perhaps it will just be a matter of learning what the lock likes and needs.

Anyway, I shot four five shot targets with .081 pillow tick patch. The first with 20 grains of GOEX FFFg, then two with 25 grains, and one with 30 grains. Here are those targets.









I just can't explain the wide variations. All of the patches I could find were in good shape. Those three shots on the bull on target #11 are what I think the gun should be doing. But what the hell is going on with those other two shots far away from the point of aim? Maybe I was just having one of those bad days shooting and screwing things up myself. It won't have been the first time.

Not feeling particularly good about those groups, I decided to try a thicker .022 denim patch and shoot groups with 20, 25, 30, 35 and 40 grain charges. The thicker patches loaded just fine. Here are those targets.











Certainly nothing to brag about there. It's interesting that Pedersoli's recommended load for this gun is 40 grains FFFg.

Though the range session was a little disappointing, this is a fun gun to shoot with recoil right up there on a par with the .22 Rimfire Magnum. I'll get the lock figured out. I'll also try another round or two of 40 grain loads. Maybe try a different lube.

Maybe I'll just shoot better the next time out and find out it isn't the gun or load at all.
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Old 10-26-2010, 01:48 AM   #2
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One thing I have noticed with my flinters, after a few shots with the flint bevel up or down, I switch and she re-knaps the flint herself...
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Old 10-26-2010, 06:16 AM   #3
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L&R locks are supposed to be good locks. I am sure the frizzen is nice and hard, being new. Maybe try a spit patch next time. Some rifles, like a spit patch. Just put that patch in your mouth and then before you use it, suck the moisture out of it.

If you want some moose milk just say the word and I will mail you some.
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Old 10-26-2010, 08:23 AM   #4
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A couple of those groups weren't that bad. But maybe it is just one of those finicky rifles that is going to take a long time to figure out what it likes via trial and error. I assume you are looking for 1" groups at 25 yards so you can use it for squirrel hunting. It is a fine looking rifle, though...
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Old 10-26-2010, 09:02 AM   #5
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I assume you are looking for 1" groups at 25 yards so you can use it for squirrel hunting.
That's a correct assumption smellhound. I see no reason not to expect that.
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Old 10-26-2010, 09:25 AM   #6
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If you want some moose milk just say the word and I will mail you some.
Thanks for the generous offer Cayugad. I may take you up on that later. I'll try a few others first. I have some homemade Crisco/olive oil/beeswax lube to try first, then plain old spit, and maybe ballistol. I'll also try some wadding under the patch as a last resort, but I doubt patch failure is the problem.

One other thing I need to address is the peep sight. It has a really large hole, something over 1/8". It's not designed for a screw-in aperture. I want to tap some threads in it and make a screw in disc with a smaller hole.
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Old 10-26-2010, 10:51 AM   #7
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That sure is one beautiful rifle.
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I dunno what charge is typical in that caliber, but maybe try more than 40 gr?
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Old 10-26-2010, 04:55 PM   #9
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I dunno what charge is typical in that caliber, but maybe try more than 40 gr?
I did a little "forum research" when I acquired the .32 UncleNorby, and found most guys are using 20 to 30 grains.

The Pedersoli web page shows a starting load of 28 grains and a maximum of 40. But they also recommend a .010 patch and .310 ball. I'm using .310 balls. But .010 seems to be way too thin of a patch to me. The .022 denim patches I tried loaded comfortably. I have some .010 patch material around here somewhere though, and may give it a try. Also, I have no aversion to taking the powder charge up another five or ten grains if all else fails.

I'll get this sucker figured out sooner or later. I want 25 yard groups to never exceed one inch (aka "head of squirrel").
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Old 10-26-2010, 05:29 PM   #10
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Im betting Bore Coat would be great in that tiny little bore. Less fouling build up
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