What would you like to see from the newest incarnation of Knight?

josh...just josh · 09-28-2010, 05:41 AM

As we all know knight is back and under new ownership. There has been a lot of talk around my hometown (Centerville iowa where the company started) about what they are going to with the facilities there. So that got me thinking...I'm sure that they don't wish to make the same mistakes that the company has made in the past. So what do think that they need to do differently this time around? What would you like to see them do?

I think that they shouldn't try to reinvent the wheel. What I mean is they shouldn't try too hard to make an overly gimmicky gun. We like to read about the newest gimmicks (electric ignition, for example) but when it comes down to hunting season and selling guns, most people just want something that can place shots reliably at say 100 yards and is somewhat easy to clean... Knight already has that in the books, the disc rifles. I think that they should forget about the revolution and stuff like that and build what they know works well. If they would package them from the factory with the FPJ plug and a NFJP that would be even better. They might even make the NFPJ plug work with blackhorn 209 for people that like that stuff. As long as they can keep costs down, quality up, and made in America on their boxes I think knight can be great again. I'd love to seem them remake the super .45 1-20" disc again, not sure that it would be a seller though. What do you guys think?

ADVWannabee · 09-28-2010, 06:25 AM

Not sure myself. While I have had my Knight Revolution for a few years, I have really only hunted with it very few times. I am really getting into it this year though and I have acquired a TC Encore for my wife to use so I finally do have something to compare it to. Both guns serve different purposes as the Encore is more of a platform for building many different guns.

The Revolution is a pain to clean as you have to clean the trigger assembly and the action housing. It has a lot of blowback. The Encore has virtually no blowback and the action area only requires a quick wipe and it is clean. I don't think the Revolution would be my choice if I were buying today. One of the more bolt action like guns would be where you could get to the breach plug without tearing down the gun.

I would think they would do well to build just 3 guns, an entry level gun something like the TC Triumph, a more featured gun based on the same platform as the entry level gun and then maybe something like the Encore.

TNHagies · 09-28-2010, 06:27 AM

Two words: Ultimate Slam

cayugad · 09-28-2010, 07:00 AM

I believe that Knight should do a couple things. First off drop the lines that had bad sales or excessive repair problems. There is no money constantly fixing something or having to make adjustments. If this means the death of the Vision and the Revolution... then so be it.

Then they need to concentrate on what works. We all know that the Knight Extreme is a very accurate rifle. As are the other top of the line bolt rifles. So they need to upgrade them. I would switch them over to the Lehigh breech plug and adaptation system so there is no primer jacket. Also the breech is then 99% fouling free. Concentrate on a well build, well bedded rifle. Last try to keep the cost down. What then need is to get sales moving quickly.

Then they need to keep an entry level rifle like the Wolverine. Again, make a quality product at a fair price.

Also I think they should produce a rifle made to shoot conical bullets. If this means a 1-24 twist, and a barrel like a White rifle, then so be it. But with a good conical shooter, they would have a one up on all the other rifle makers. They could offer that to people that want to get away from the sabot world. They could offer this with a nice peep sight even. This would I think be a popular rifle.

These are just my opinions.

josh...just josh · 09-28-2010, 07:08 AM

I got to tell you, for hunting, I dont mind the primer jackets. I do agree through that they should also sell them with a plug like the lehigh plug.

Semisane · 09-28-2010, 07:41 AM

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Also I think they should produce a rifle made to shoot conical bullets. If this means a 1-24 twist, and a barrel like a White rifle, then so be it. But with a good conical shooter, they would have a one up on all the other rifle makers. They could offer that to people that want to get away from the sabot world. They could offer this with a nice peep sight even. This would I think be a popular rifle.

That's the ticket Cayugad! In .45 caliber.

josh...just josh · 09-28-2010, 07:44 AM

I would think that the .45 1-20" disc would do that real well. Sabotless knight!

cayugad · 09-28-2010, 11:05 AM

Conical twist barrel are not just the twist but the depth of the rifling and how it is cut. For instance I have a couple Knight Rifles that while excellent sabot shooters, are not that great in the conical department. Yet I have three Whites and all of them are conical throwing marvels.

Now I am no barrel maker, but something makes the White what it is and something makes other barrels what they are. Also do away with any QLA. I think they are a waste of effort. Now a inward side into the crown of the muzzle is one thing. But a false muzzle I feel just is not needed.

Nimrodder · 09-28-2010, 11:13 AM

I would like to see Knight bring back the MK-85 and make the Ultimate Slam with a 1 in 24" twist with an optional walnut stock.

Gm54-120 · 09-28-2010, 04:10 PM

Ultimate Slam in 45 and 50 with a 1-24 twist.

Ultimate Slam Carbine version also available in 54cal or maybe a 52cal with more sabot options.

FPJ and NFPJ compatible and included.

An entry level DISC based rifle that can be upgraded later. Use the Elite barrel with sites and a reasonable non adjustable trigger. Choice of FPJ, (standard) or the new or old NFPJ systems.

LK or MK based plunger gun with double lugs designed for heavy conicals and to meet some state's restrictions. FPJ optional