I bought a new T/C Omega 50 cal. with thumbhole stock .
Will be putting a Nikon Omega BDC 3-9x40 scope on it .
Looking for suggestions on what to start with ,
All my muzzle loader assesories are for cap or flint .
What should IO get for sabots ? any special bullet starter ?Seen the 209 primers at Gander $7.99 for a pack ,
There are a ton of different sabots in different weights .
I noticed many in 300 gr. but different style tips .
Do they also come different diameter ?? I no I need 50 cal but I read where the exact diameter was slightly different if I,m not mistaken ,,
I , m trying to locate blackhorn 209 powder .
Whats a good load to start with ??
I here its more pricey but if it shoots as clean as they say a bottle will last me a long time ...
Appreciate any tips .
Have a nice New Years day .. and be safe .....
In 300 gr., I use Horn. XTP's,Speer Gold Dots-both are .452 & in .458 try Rem. 300's.
For sabots, use mmp shorts with the XTP/Gold Dots and Harv. Crush ribs with the Rem.'s.
Very happy with all these bullets--pass thru's,blood trails and deer don't go far.
For powder, I use 110 gr 777 loose powder.
I used to use Horn. SST bullets, but gave up on them due to non-exiting and NO blood trail.
For bullets with any kind of a point you need a short starter and jag that is designed to push them down the barrel with out messing up the point.
For break in I recommend a couple packages of Hprnady FPB hollow base conicals and 80 or 90 gr. This should help polish the barrel. Polished barrels are easier to load and clean. Lee
Looked at some 250 grain and 300 grain TC Shock wave ammo .
Noticed some were bonded and a little more pricey .$14.99 to $19.00 for 15 and also found some 30 packs at $21.99 . Cant figure out what the difference is except they were bonded or not bonded ??
I also found some Federal Fusion I believe 240 gr. , they were 12 per pack at $7.97
For bullets with any kind of a point you need a short starter and jag that is designed to push them down the barrel with out messing up the point.
For break in I recommend a couple packages of Hprnady FPB hollow base conicals and 80 or 90 gr. This should help polish the barrel. Polished barrels are easier to load and clean. Lee
On another ML site a member told me to drill out, slightly, the brass jag on the end of the ramrod that came with the ML, & then place a bullet on a hard floor and apply pressure. If the point has no deformities it's drilled enough. No need for a short starter. Hope this helps, worked well for me.
Glad to see you went with the Omega. I purchased one this summer and love it. I also shot a great deer with it this fall, first hunt with the MZ.
I spent a ton of time learning the best load for my gun and can share with you what worked for me. I ended up with Harvester Crushed Rib Sabots. They load with smooth, firm pressure. I also used Harvester Scorpion PT Gold 300 gr. Bullets. Call the folks at Harvester and they'll send you some samples. Lastly, I found 100 grns. of Triple Seven was the best load for a 300 grn. bullet. With the above I was shooting clover leafs at 80 meters and 1.5 inch groups a 100 meters.
I had trouble with loading too hot. Try 70 - 80 Grns. of T7 for a 250 or 100 - 110 grns. for a 300.
You don't NEED BH209 powder, 777 is good too. Heck, they are all ok in their own ways. I stayed with 777 and never had a problem. The only thing is with 777 in an Omega the 25ACP primer conversion works better than the 209s, less crud in the breech between shots.
Stay away from bonded Shockwaves for deer. Too hard. Been there done that.
I just heard an interesting report on the stories that Shockwaves do not expand, which always confused me as I've shot dozens of deer with them and never had an issue. Someone who had a confirmed non-expansion (bullet recovered with the petals bent inward rather than out) determined that their loading jag was not designed to avoid deforming the bullet, and when they were pushing them down the bore they distorted the petals behind the tip and that is where they were folding in upon impact and resulting in non-expansion. Moral of the story, get a pusher designed for those bullets and you'll be ok.
There are few bad options however, other people have named other good bullets. The only ones I'd caution against are a) bonded bullets, and b) Powerbelts pushed with over 85gr or so of powder.
Thanks ,
I was talking to a friend , He uses BH209 and shoots the Barnes spitfire T-EZ in the 250 gr,
He has a new TC Encore and said they go in fairly easy and shoot great .
He shot 2 deer with it and both went down quick .
He claims theres no problem shooting his TC using the blackhorn 209 multiple times ,
He simple swabs the barrel and reloads .
He says once he has it zeroed in he wont clean it , he only swabs it if nessesary to make sure its consistant ..
Breaking in my new M L ....
