Thanks. Right now I've got it taken apart and I'm just polishing away to see if that helps, but I'll be sending a PM to UC. It's a terribly simple hammer/trigger, I just don't know what to be chipping away at
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So, I got a little improvement in the trigger pull just by polishing some stuff up. The creep remains. However, here are some pics showing what I did for those curious:
These are where the two pins are that you push out to take out the hammer/trigger (pointed to w/ screwdrivers). Just take out the one mounting bolt to remove this assembly from the gun.
Just lift them out. Here are the spots you will see notches.
I just used a brass cleaning brush (20ga) and brushed them for quite awhile to smooth them out. Then I repeated the process with an oiled brush, and finished by cleaning and oiling. Slide the trigger back in and replace the small pin, then the hammer and springs followed by the larger pin. I plan on mounting a section of cleaning rod into a drill, putting a brush in the rod, wrapping it with steel wool and working over (w/ oil) the rest of the parts another day. I've used a similar method honing shotgun chambers to stop jamming. Creep remains and it's still fairly heavy, hafta get another opinion for that. It helped some anyways...
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I was out of steel wool, but I still had a 410 brush that had some wrapped on it. I went ahead and polished as much as I could using Rem Oil as a lubricant. The steel wool definitely makes the difference. The creep remains, but the pull is ultimately much much lighter and smoother than before.
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Creep has been more or less eliminated. I used a course and fine knife sharpener on the point of the "trigger" where it locks into the hammer. It breaks much cleaner, pull is still heavy.
Here's where I rubbed the stone when I got the creep eliminated:
I followed the stone with the brush and oil. Did the trick, it no longer creeps no matter how slow I pull it.
Extra lubrication at the locking point and additional use of the stone has again helped the issue. I rubbed the stone on the rear spring where it slides against the trigger. I also smoothed out the burrs on the end of the front spring. This seems to have helped as well. I'm much happier with the trigger now, not only has creep been eliminated but the pull is smoother and lighter now. Iffin' I can't figure out how to lighten the pull otherwise, I'll take the aformentioned moly lubricant into consideration. I'm certain it would help some.
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You can easily remove too much material from those surfaces. Make sure you cannot easily fire the hammer by just pushing forward on it. Messing with the springs as I did can yield some gains as well, but it can also create new problems that aren't easily anticipated. Those two torsion springs must provide a proper balance to result in a decent pull weight so it would be best to have some extra springs so that you could try different combinations - perhaps one combination would provide the result you want. Very light polishing of those sear surfaces is as far as I would go.
You can easily get to the point where the rifle can be fired with a push on the hammer or a situation where the hammer does not rebound properly after firing.
Lucky folks get a Genesis with a decent trigger (and it could only be luck). The design works but isn't friendly to any adjustments.
Aye, the trigger was so bad I had nothing to lose by playing with it (it takes a serious back seat to my Omega). Polishing yielded some gain. It's smoother but still heavier than I'd like. I think I'll have to get the extra springs...by the looks of it they can't be more than 5 cents How'd you bend them?
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I just used two pair of needle nosed pliers and bent the ends, knowing they could snap and break in doing so. Got away with it though.
I seriously do NOT recommend you try any of that. My first bend worked out ok, but then I got carried away thinking that changing the spring's contact points on the hammer body might gain me something. It did. Luckily, I was able to get replacement springs that turned out to be much better than the originals.
Remington Genesis: Trigger adjustment?
Luckily, I was able to get replacement springs that turned out to be much better than the originals.
