What do i need

[bigtim6656]

This week i am getting a triumph and a scope. I know i need pellets bullets, cleaning stuff, and a bullet starter. What else would you guys recommend i get starting out ml hunting. Also what cleaning stuff do i need. Someone told me at school a 12ga cleaning kit will work then all i need is the solvent and oil for ml. Also what oil do you recommend for a muzzleloader

[nchawkeye]

I prefer loose powder as you are handloading each shot and you can tailor the charge to the gun for optimum accuracy...

I use Goex FFF but Pyrodex R-S will do all you need to do...I use rubbing alcohol as a cleaner/solvent...Regular gun oil is all that's needed to protect the bore...

What type bullets and sabots are you going to try???

[bigtim6656]

My plan was the tc shockwave super glide. Manly because i am getting the Nikon omega bdc scope which is setup for the shockwaves from what tc said. I also like the reviews for them. I think i will try the normal shockwaves as i was told the superglides will not group well if the normal sabots slide in.

Originally Posted by nchawkeye

I prefer loose powder as you are handloading each shot and you can tailor the charge to the gun for optimum accuracy...

I use Goex FFF but Pyrodex R-S will do all you need to do...I use rubbing alcohol as a cleaner/solvent...Regular gun oil is all that's needed to protect the bore...

What type bullets and sabots are you going to try???

[driftrider]

I greatly prefer powder over pellets, and would suggest you go that route. Loose powder is cheaper, allows you to fine tune your load, and isn't going to break up with rough handling. If you use anything but BH209, the best way to clean after shooting is with hot soapy water (dawn dish soap works great). Alcohol or Windex w/o ammonia work great for between shot cleaning at the range. If you shoot Blackhorn 209, which is basically nitrocellulose smokeless powder cleverly marketed to ML hunters, you'll need to use a nitro solvent like Hoppes #9. I use 20ga brushes and jags made for .50cal ML's. For "oil" I prefer Breakfree CLP for all my guns. It does a great job preventing corrosion, and it lubes well, and if used correctly, it leaves the surfaces basically dry, which limits the accumulation of dirt/fouling sludge common to more conventional gun oils that remain wet. Breakfree CLP is the same milspec lube that is standard issue for the M16/M4 variants in use by the U.S. military (I was introduced to it in the Marine Corps).

Mike

[bigtim6656]

Breakfree was what i used on my AR.

Originally Posted by driftrider

I greatly prefer powder over pellets, and would suggest you go that route. Loose powder is cheaper, allows you to fine tune your load, and isn't going to break up with rough handling. If you use anything but BH209, the best way to clean after shooting is with hot soapy water (dawn dish soap works great). Alcohol or Windex w/o ammonia work great for between shot cleaning at the range. If you shoot Blackhorn 209, which is basically nitrocellulose smokeless powder cleverly marketed to ML hunters, you'll need to use a nitro solvent like Hoppes #9. I use 20ga brushes and jags made for .50cal ML's. For "oil" I prefer Breakfree CLP for all my guns. It does a great job preventing corrosion, and it lubes well, and if used correctly, it leaves the surfaces basically dry, which limits the accumulation of dirt/fouling sludge common to more conventional gun oils that remain wet. Breakfree CLP is the same milspec lube that is standard issue for the M16/M4 variants in use by the U.S. military (I was introduced to it in the Marine Corps).

Mike

[IL-Cornfed]

Congrats on the new muzzleloader purchase! It sounds like you're gonna have a great set-up! I have an Encore with the nikon Omega scope and I also shoot the T/C Shockwave superglides and they shoot extremely well.

An extra cleaning accessory that I would seriously suggest is a Bore Snake. They make cleaning as quick and easy as you can get.

Good luck and good shootin'

[Mr.Flintlock]

One thing I did not see you list in your accessorys is speed loaders. I recommend that you get a few of these. Carrying a few of these with pre-measured charges and projectiles will be of great benefit when you need to reload quickly.

[spaniel]

speedloaders (3)
cleaning jag
loading jag for pointy bullets (highly recommend the PrecisionRifle Super Rat rotating jag)
bag of cleaning patches
Capper for 209s
Shockwaves (I agree, try regular first)
Loose powder
Breakfree CLP for oil -- by FAR the best I've used
powder measure
powder flask

Cleaning -- depends on the powder. If you use Triple Seven, I simply use water-soaked patches. Then a couple dry ones, then a lightly oiled one. If BH209, I understand you need a normal powder solvent like Hoppes. If you use Pyrodex, there are better people on here to give you the best option as I quit using it years ago.

[Kathwacckkk]

You stated in a different post that you are going to stick with the black supplied sabot over the superglide. Good place to start.
I agree, pick up some speedloaders. Many here prefer loose powder and it does allow you more room to customize a load. However, pellets work for many people and is conveinent. Just do not buy to much of any one thing until you really get the accuracy you want.
In addition to other things said here. Instead of getting a 12 gauge cleaning kit, I would invest in a range rod. This is a longer rod that is not kept in the gun's rod holder. It can except multiple jags / heads and usually has a nice handle on it. Makes it easier for me on range sessions when loading, cleaning, etc...
The only other thing I would recommend is keeping everything consistent (cleaning routine, loading routine, seating pressure, powder volume, bullet, etc...) from shot to shot until you get a good idea of where the bullet is impacting. Then you can start changing one variable at a time and know the exact results of that change.
Good luck and keep us informed.

[marshall9779]

Get a short starter too with another with a jag for tipped bullets.