CVA Kodiak Pro spraying copper

Cooter Bix · 10-13-2009, 05:53 PM

I'm new to the site, but I have a problem getting the muzzleloader fine tuned. I have a CVA Kodiak Pro and I cant get any accuracy out of it. I'm currently shooting Powerbelt 195gr. with 100gr. Triple Seven pellets and a winchester 209 primer. It sprays copper from the first shot to the last. It's the 45cal. model. Am I using too much powder for such a light bullet? Am I using a bad bullet? Should I switch to loose powder? Muzzleloader season starts in 5 days and I am shooting 6" groups at 100yrds. I appreciate any help.

spaniel · 10-13-2009, 06:03 PM

What do you mean "spraying copper"?

IMHO that's too hot of a load for that bullet. They are known to blow up on game if you push them (Powerbelts) too fast. I'd back down to 75-85gr.

MountainDevil54 · 10-13-2009, 07:07 PM

to light of a bullet and about 30 grains to much powder for it to handle.

Get either some 225s or 275gr powerbelts and try around 70 to 80 grains. Either loose powder or one 50gr pellet and one 30gr pellet. pyrodex P is also another "might want to try" possibilities.

Roger46982 · 10-14-2009, 04:06 AM

Ditch the PB's and try some Shockwaves or PR Deadcenters and 100 grs. 777. Have had several Kodiaks and all shot great with this load.

Kathwacckkk · 10-14-2009, 04:56 AM

I also agree that this is to hot a load for the bullet weight. I have a .50 CVA Kodiak Pro and mine loves two pellets of 777, 245gr aerotip Powerbelt and Winchester 209 primers. People love and hate the Powerbelts, you will get opinions both ways here. Do not be afraid to experiment with other bullet and load combinations, but I understand the time constraint.

Therefore, mine was tough to get accurate and consistent when I first got into muzzleloading. The best way I found was to take one shot out of clean, dry barrel and check the bullet impact. Break the gun down, clean, dry, wait until cool, load, aim then fire. Keep everything as consistent as possible to your cleaning techniques right down to you seating pressure. Once I knew the gun was consistent and accurate with the first shot, it put my mind at ease. I usually only get one shot out of a clean barrel anyways. After that, you can experiment with just swabbing the barrel, running a brass jag to bust up any crud ring, etc... Change one thing at a time so you know the result of that particular change. You must find a base point to start with.

When I first started shooting, I finally got into the mindset that muzzleloading was similiar to handloading. Keep everything consistent if you want consistent results.

Please keep us informed, there is a wealth of information on this site and people are willling to share so you enjoy the experience.

Cooter Bix · 10-14-2009, 01:49 PM

Thanks for all the info. I can only find pellets in 50gr. for a 45 cal. No 30 gr. I have talked to others at work and i have come to the realization that loose powder is gonna be my best bet. I am going to try again tomorrow using only 50 gr. Hopefully I can group them better this way, yet i also realize I won't have the power at longer distances. By spraying I meant "No accuracy or consistantcy AT ALL!"

Roger, I used Shockwaves last year and had same problem.

Spaniel and Mountain Devil, I'm going to try using loose powder at 70grs. and go from there.

Thank You to everybody for all the info. This site is going to be very helpful for me to gain alot of experience.

SSKyleW · 10-16-2009, 06:12 AM

Glad to see you got some good answers here Cooter. I'm in the process of writing some blog posts for a new CVA blog, one of which might give you a bit more insight into your issue. Check out http://muzzleloading.info/loading-yo...p-performance/

If you don't find your answer there, go ahead and leave something in the comments. I've been told (on good authority) that the guys from CVA will be answering any questions that come through there.

BOYWONDER · 10-19-2009, 06:03 PM

I got the same ML you got and it took me a year and a half to find a load. I finally found mine likes 100 grains of FFG triple 7 w/ 195gr Barnes Expander MZ. It's hitting about a inch high at 50 yards and all 3 shots are touching making a nice little triangle.

brushbustin · 10-20-2009, 05:44 AM

I have the exact same gun,but in 50 caliber..I don't know if they make them in 45 cal or not,but i'd reccomend the Hornady FPB,mine shoots 1in groups at 100yds with an FPB and 2 777 pellets...