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Old 07-26-2009, 05:59 AM   #1
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My Knight KRB7 really likes Hornady Great Plains bullets. I'm having trouble locating more. None of the local sports outlets have them. On line, one site stated that they are no longer made. Anybody know if this is true, and, if not, of a source to order from?
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Old 07-26-2009, 06:28 AM   #2
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Look here:

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=539362

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Old 07-26-2009, 07:34 AM   #3
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Thanks, I'm on it.
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Old 07-26-2009, 11:45 AM   #4
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Hornady discontinued the .50 caliber 410 grain flat point Great Plains and kept the 385 grain hollow point. That's a shame because, at least for me, the 410 grain bullet shot better and performed better on game. I guess the hollow point is a better seller because hollow points are "sexier", though not at all needed (or wanted) on a pure lead conical.
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Old 07-28-2009, 06:37 PM   #5
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check around. i bought a mould a few years back for that plains- bullet.
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Old 07-31-2009, 09:00 AM   #6
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The lyman great plains bullet in not a good bullet. I make a lot of bullets for ML's and the Lyman is the bottom of the list for accuracy. Ron
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385gr HP sucked on a deer i shot some years ago. 20 yards right into the shoulder and the bullet damn near ripped in half. When will these companies learn that soft lead bullets dont need that HP to expand?
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Old 07-31-2009, 12:03 PM   #8
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Maybe you weren't molding them right.

The Hornady GP conicals have always shown excellent accuracy in all my guns. I suppose if you're using a RB twist, the long bullet would probably not stabilize well and show accuracy problems, but in a 1:28" or faster twist, they are great. They hit hard too.

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Old 07-31-2009, 04:24 PM   #9
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I make about 20 different types of lead bullets, I know how to make them, and even test them for hardness.
You are comparing a Lyman great plains to a HORNADY great plains.
The Lyman is a solid base design.
The Hornady is hollow base.
The Lyman has a base band of .499
The Hornady has a base band of .500
The Lyman has a top driving band diameter of .504
The Hornady has a top driving band diameter of .510

The only thing these bullets have in common is the name Great plains
I agree the Hornady great plains 410 gr is a fantastic bullet. They are a solid nose HOLLOW base design that is accurate and effective on game. I have shot 3 muledeer with the 410's





Now for the guns I used them in.
I used TC Renegades with Green Mountain Stainless steel 1-28 twist barrels.




The hornady bullets shoot very well out of this gun.



The Lyman Great plains bullets shoot very poor.



Notice the Hornady is a 100 yard target and the Lyman is a 50 yard target. I started to make some 500 S&W bullets. I paper patch these bullets and they shoot VERY well.




While I might not know a lot of things in this world, I do know how to make, and shoot bullets. I also know that Lyman great plains bullets are NOT as good as a Hornady great plains. Ron



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Maybe you weren't molding them right.

The Hornady GP conicals have always shown excellent accuracy in all my guns. I suppose if you're using a RB twist, the long bullet would probably not stabilize well and show accuracy problems, but in a 1:28" or faster twist, they are great. They hit hard too.

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Old 07-31-2009, 04:45 PM   #10
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Lyman also made a conical a while back called the Shocker. It was 420 grains. I tried them in a number of rifles and all I can say is the last seven of them were melted down by me to become roundball. I never shot a conical that was that bad for accuracy.

I had been to a muzzle loader store sight and they were on sale. That should have been the first alarm bell. So I bought three boxes of them. Having lots of rifles, I tried them with lots of powder, lots of rifles, and came to the conclusion that they needed to be melted. I never ran across a conicals that I could not get to shoot, but that was one of them.

Some of the favorite conicals I shoot are of course Bull Shop slip fit, maxiball, REAL, and Hornady Great Plains. Buffalo Bullet company years back made a big conicals bullet that was good out of my Renegades, but I forget their name.
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