They came yesterday... At first glance they are an awsome looking bullet. I am not a machinist nor a bullet maker but these things are made to look really good. They look like a perfect diamond - I mean really pretty.
I orderd three varieties... the 10 mil/200 grain, the .452/250 grain, and then I went off the deep end and ordered the .458/300 grain as that is the bullet I use for elk hunting.
The 10mil/200 is the one that has my attention more than than the other two. I am thinking if I were going to pay a premium price for a 10 mil bullet it might be this one vs. the SST/SW. OH yea! you all should know that I am not a pointy bullet fan when it comes to ML projectiles. 200 yards is my self imposed limit so I really do not need the pointy bullets. But back to the 10mil. One thing that I really think that will be an advantage is the two rings around the bullet. It should really help the slick brass projectile grip the sabot and prevent the sabot from spinning without turning the bullet, especially at the initial explosion.
I did not realize the the .452/250 had somewhat of a boat tail base - so I am not sure how that will shoot in a regular flat based sabot. Again I do like the ideal of the rings.
The .458 is a huge bullet - physically much larger than I expected, in fact it is to large to use during our ML season as we have the 2x bore diameter rule, but during regular rifle season it would be available since I do not use a regular rifle any more at all.
Why did I get these? I think Grouse already proved they can be shot accurately, but nobody knows how well they will work on big game. My plan is to shoot them in to my torture medium @ 100 yards and dig them out to see what they look like. I have example of recovered Noslers, Speers, and Hornadys that I can compare them with.
If you look at the nose of these you can see on the outside there are no cuts to aid in the formation of petals as expansion first begins. This really concerned me, but if you look in the nose there are six flat surfaces with a small groove separating each flat surface - so I assume this is the apparatus that starts the formation of petals. To invision what I am talking about it looks like you could insert the correct size of allen wrench riht in the nose and turn the bullet.
Here is a picture that shows the Lehighs as compared to more common bullets.
Gotta love experimenting during the non-hunting season
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Those are a brass bullet? They look so much larger then the others. BUT that could be to an advantage down range. A very interesting bullet. I will be waiting for your results..
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I shoot that 200 grain 10mm/40 caliber XTP/MAG and had great success and accuracy w/it. But when I look at the XTP beside the lehigh , and the length of it I am wondering if the flight will be more stabil for an accuracy increase if that is possible? I am real happy w/ the 200 grain 10mm/40 caliber. Also note I was shooting 110 grains measured of BH209, is that what you will be testing with?
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Ithought the 260 Nosler had an exposed lead tip. Looks likea deep, hollow point (like the Gold Dot). Do you shoot the 260 Speer JHP for practice and hunt with the 260 Nosler. ?
Do you shoot the 260 Speer JHP for practice and hunt with the 260 Nosler. ?
Exactly...
The 260 Nosler does have a HP but it is fairly shallow - not as shollow as a 300 grain Gold Dot, but not very deep. The 300 grain Nosler has what Nosler calls a Protected Point - but it really is nothing more than a flat tip like you would load in a 30-30... but that is good because it represents more frontal area...
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I'm sorry, and I may be wrong but I just don't see that brass bullet opening up and expanding. I think the brass will be too hard. If you want complete pass through and don't care for expansion I guess it might be for you. But I also like expansion with my pass through. I'll have to wait and see it used on deer before I give up on my Barnes Expanders MZ's.
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I have some of the 400/200 Lehighs (just came this afternoon) to shoot out of my 45. This hollow point is huge & deep.
Sabotloader,
I'm not sure if those flats will add strenght to the front of the bullet to impede expansion or act to aid more rapid expansion. I guess we will find out soon enough.
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I'm really excited now.I have tipped bullets coming that were put in the same bullet. The BC will be Awesome i bet. Excellant report Sabotloader.
BTW- The bigger Boattail on the 250grn bullets are being changed to the 200grn and the 300grn bullet posted by sabotloader. That should end any confusion with sabots. I had no problems at all with regular sabots either way.
Well... I had to get some...
