Octogonal Barrels and Scope Mounts???
01-11-2009, 06:57 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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Octogonal Barrels and Scope Mounts???
I am thinking of putting a scopeonmy Hawkens Carbine. But, I am at a lose to know anything about a base mount for an octogonal barrel. Where do I find one if they are available? And please don't beat me up for putting a scope on a traditional gun.
With this one gun I don't care about politicallycorrectness. I want functionality, myeyes ain't what they once were when I was eighteen!!!
With this one gun I don't care about politicallycorrectness. I want functionality, myeyes ain't what they once were when I was eighteen!!!
01-11-2009, 08:13 AM
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RE: Octogonal Barrels and Scope Mounts???
something like these might work. They fit octagonal barrels.
T/c used to make some others for the hawken, You might try Mid-Way also. Good luck
http://cgi.ebay.com/Thompson-Center-...031210002r1800
T/c used to make some others for the hawken, You might try Mid-Way also. Good luck
http://cgi.ebay.com/Thompson-Center-...031210002r1800
01-11-2009, 08:34 AM
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Giant Nontypical
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RE: Octogonal Barrels and Scope Mounts???
rafsob
A few years back when I had my shop I mounted a number of scopes on octagon barrels, weaver sells a one peice base [I dont remember the number] that is completely flat and it works fine. They don't advertise it for this use and you need to take the hammer throw and the fact that you needto clear the hammer into consideration when you buy the scope[ you need to get medium long eye relief or reshape the hammer] and when you place your mounting holes. Lee
A few years back when I had my shop I mounted a number of scopes on octagon barrels, weaver sells a one peice base [I dont remember the number] that is completely flat and it works fine. They don't advertise it for this use and you need to take the hammer throw and the fact that you needto clear the hammer into consideration when you buy the scope[ you need to get medium long eye relief or reshape the hammer] and when you place your mounting holes. Lee
01-11-2009, 08:37 AM
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Dominant Buck
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RE: Octogonal Barrels and Scope Mounts???
T/C for years carried a mount that would clear the hammer on the rifle. CVA also did. But I think through just lack of interest (because traditional shooters did not use scope and a lot of states out lawed them at the time) the sale of these items was so poor that they kind of faded away. There are some out there floating around.
What make of Hawkins carbine do you have as the distance on the flats and the hole patterns change from brand to brand. I have a few sets of scope plates that you can then add a weaver base to, and then your set of rings. I can find them and see if they might help you.. if you give me the make of the Hawkins.
I never tried those gorilla grips. I will have to call T/C some time and talk to them about those things.
What make of Hawkins carbine do you have as the distance on the flats and the hole patterns change from brand to brand. I have a few sets of scope plates that you can then add a weaver base to, and then your set of rings. I can find them and see if they might help you.. if you give me the make of the Hawkins.
I never tried those gorilla grips. I will have to call T/C some time and talk to them about those things.
01-11-2009, 11:57 AM
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Fork Horn
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RE: Octogonal Barrels and Scope Mounts???
I did this with my white mtn carbine. I had a Weaver rail laying around from my 30-06, curved bottom. I clamped it onto a milling machine, flattened the bottom and then drilled 1 extra hole to match the spacing of the existing screws forthe rear sight. This put the scope forward enough to clear the hammer. I used a red dot withno magnification and unlimited eye relief so the forward mount is not a problem. I works good and helps my tired eyes.
01-12-2009, 07:01 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Octogonal Barrels and Scope Mounts???
ORIGINAL: cayugad
T/C for years carried a mount that would clear the hammer on the rifle. CVA also did. But I think through just lack of interest (because traditional shooters did not use scope and a lot of states out lawed them at the time) the sale of these items was so poor that they kind of faded away. There are some out there floating around.
What make of Hawkins carbine do you have as the distance on the flats and the hole patterns change from brand to brand. I have a few sets of scope plates that you can then add a weaver base to, and then your set of rings. I can find them and see if they might help you.. if you give me the make of the Hawkins.
I never tried those gorilla grips. I will have to call T/C some time and talk to them about those things.
T/C for years carried a mount that would clear the hammer on the rifle. CVA also did. But I think through just lack of interest (because traditional shooters did not use scope and a lot of states out lawed them at the time) the sale of these items was so poor that they kind of faded away. There are some out there floating around.
What make of Hawkins carbine do you have as the distance on the flats and the hole patterns change from brand to brand. I have a few sets of scope plates that you can then add a weaver base to, and then your set of rings. I can find them and see if they might help you.. if you give me the make of the Hawkins.
I never tried those gorilla grips. I will have to call T/C some time and talk to them about those things.
Dave, it is an InvestArms Hawken Carbine that I got from Cabalas.
Idon'tknow, maybe Ishouldjust leave the scopestothe inlines and find a good peepsight for thecarbine. It is just that the eye sight is not getting anybetter and I need some help.
01-12-2009, 12:02 PM
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Fork Horn
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RE: Octogonal Barrels and Scope Mounts???
ORIGINAL: rafsob
Thanks for teh suggestions guys.
Dave, it is an InvestArms Hawken Carbine that I got from Cabalas.
Idon'tknow, maybe Ishouldjust leave the scopestothe inlines and find a good peepsight for thecarbine. It is just that the eye sight is not getting anybetter and I need some help.
ORIGINAL: cayugad
T/C for years carried a mount that would clear the hammer on the rifle. CVA also did. But I think through just lack of interest (because traditional shooters did not use scope and a lot of states out lawed them at the time) the sale of these items was so poor that they kind of faded away. There are some out there floating around.
What make of Hawkins carbine do you have as the distance on the flats and the hole patterns change from brand to brand. I have a few sets of scope plates that you can then add a weaver base to, and then your set of rings. I can find them and see if they might help you.. if you give me the make of the Hawkins.
I never tried those gorilla grips. I will have to call T/C some time and talk to them about those things.
T/C for years carried a mount that would clear the hammer on the rifle. CVA also did. But I think through just lack of interest (because traditional shooters did not use scope and a lot of states out lawed them at the time) the sale of these items was so poor that they kind of faded away. There are some out there floating around.
What make of Hawkins carbine do you have as the distance on the flats and the hole patterns change from brand to brand. I have a few sets of scope plates that you can then add a weaver base to, and then your set of rings. I can find them and see if they might help you.. if you give me the make of the Hawkins.
I never tried those gorilla grips. I will have to call T/C some time and talk to them about those things.
Dave, it is an InvestArms Hawken Carbine that I got from Cabalas.
Idon'tknow, maybe Ishouldjust leave the scopestothe inlines and find a good peepsight for thecarbine. It is just that the eye sight is not getting anybetter and I need some help.
The top one is a green mountain barrel, second one is Investarms, And the third is a renegade with a weaver mount that is hard to find
The Investarms doesn't have the hole tapped back by the hammer formounting.
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01-14-2009, 01:30 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Octogonal Barrels and Scope Mounts???
ORIGINAL: chetmarks
something like these might work. They fit octagonal barrels.
T/c used to make some others for the hawken, You might try Mid-Way also. Good luck
http://cgi.ebay.com/Thompson-Center-Muzzleloader-Rifle-Scope-Rings-&-Mounts_W0QQitemZ260341294529QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ2 0090103?IMSfp=TL0901031210002r1800
something like these might work. They fit octagonal barrels.
T/c used to make some others for the hawken, You might try Mid-Way also. Good luck
http://cgi.ebay.com/Thompson-Center-Muzzleloader-Rifle-Scope-Rings-&-Mounts_W0QQitemZ260341294529QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ2 0090103?IMSfp=TL0901031210002r1800
01-14-2009, 01:51 PM
#10
Fork Horn
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RE: Octogonal Barrels and Scope Mounts???
I would think they would have to get screwed on, It says they have "multiple mounting positions"
I've seen some that kinda clamp to the side of an octagon barrel, but I don't know if I would trust that. I guess you could take it to a gunsmith, have it drilled and tapped and then put a pistol scope on so you could have enough room for the hammer.
I've seen some that kinda clamp to the side of an octagon barrel, but I don't know if I would trust that. I guess you could take it to a gunsmith, have it drilled and tapped and then put a pistol scope on so you could have enough room for the hammer.