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Old 11-25-2008, 08:29 AM   #1
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Default What happened to CVA Traditional Models?

What happened to CVA's traditional models like the "Bobcat" etc?

CVA doesn't show any traditional models on their home site CVA.com and CVA traditional model seem to be absent from the big retailers I have checked with.

Maybe I have overlooked them? But I just can't seem to find any new traditional CVA's for sale.

Does anyone know if something happened with CVA traditional side locks and flint locks?
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Old 11-25-2008, 08:57 AM   #2
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Default RE: What happened to CVA Traditional Models?

Well it seemed they were not selling fast enough for the companies market plans, so they basically stopped making them. If you want a Bobcat, you have to find a used one. They do still service the rifles they sold.
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Old 11-25-2008, 09:29 AM   #3
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Default RE: What happened to CVA Traditional Models?

if your wanting cva traditional, check gun auction sites, local gun shops, and pawn shops.

little side note, cva is going to stop doing repairs to sidelocks in 2010. they sold the bulk of the parts to deer creek products 765-525-6181
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Old 11-25-2008, 09:44 AM   #4
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Default RE: What happened to CVA Traditional Models?

If you are interested in a Traditional percussion or Flintlock, you would be better off to get a Lyman Great Plains. The price is fair and the accuracy is the best there is in a traditional bpg.
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Old 11-25-2008, 09:58 AM   #5
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Default RE: What happened to CVA Traditional Models?

Thanks for the info. guys. That really helps.

I have 2 Bobcats I bought back in spring-04, one wood/blue and one synthetic/blue. I love them.

I took a coyote and a 4pt. buck with the wood/blue. I've stored the syn./blue for now. The accuracy of both guns is GREAT for the price - each was about $100-new. I'm shooting the adjustable iron sights CVA offered for that model. 80gr. 777 with 250gr. hollow point Powerbelts.

Sorry to hear that CVA has abandoned that line - they were a great shooter and real value. CVA's service was great also - I sent the wood/blue in for a minor repair and they did a top notch job, quickly and for free.

Thanks again to all.

Special thanks to "cayugad", your advice got me into BP years ago reading this forum. Your tips have made BP fun and successful for me.
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Old 11-26-2008, 06:14 AM   #6
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Default RE: What happened to CVA Traditional Models?

I put together one of the early 50cal CVA hawken kit years ago. It had the 2 barrel keys, pewter style end cap and double triggers. I was kinda upset because CVA had advertised that it was made in the USA. I found the lock had "made in Spain" stamped on the inside. I replaced the issued sights with a fixed buckhorn rear and a german silver frontsight.I got lucky with those sights and was able to maintain a 4" group at 100 yards off the bench without any further adjustment. As it turned out that CVA was the most accurate round ball rifle I ever had. It outperformed myJ. Browning Hawken, and 50cal Hatfield. My son inlaw still hunts with it and has never lost a deer due to the limitation of the round ball.
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Old 11-26-2008, 09:21 AM   #7
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Default RE: What happened to CVA Traditional Models?

Danged shame too. I have two of their older rifles and several of their pistols... all .45 cal. sidelocks and they are all good shooters.

Too bad that they've gotten away from the traditional stuff. My Kentucky rifle has gotten me 4 whitetail, two mule deer, two hogs, two javelina and two turkeys. Probably my favorite front stuffer...

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Old 11-26-2008, 10:18 AM   #8
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Default RE: What happened to CVA Traditional Models?

It really boils down to market share. The trend is inlines. Everyone wanted magnum newer and better inline rifles. Only some strange people like us were still looking for traditional rifles and then we would shop the auction sites. Knight never got into the traditional market and did great. Thompson Center is also moving away from them, they have a Hawkins and a Firestorm left in production plus they limit now to .50 caliber. It used to be the day when you could get all calibers. About the only companies that still hangs in there is Traditions and Lyman's for you more mass produced rifles in traditional. Of course there is Pedersolli but they are kind of expensive. Investarms is Lymans, as is Cabela's so it is boiling down to what you want to shoot and what style you want to shoot.

People wanted to get in to the muzzle loader market with a moderate to low priced rifle. They wanted a rifle that was easy to load, maintain, and shoot extreme distances. That was the start of the inline craze.
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Old 11-26-2008, 02:59 PM   #9
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I too got into the inline craze, not because of something new, but due to my eyes starting to fail. It is easy to mount a scope on the inlines. Now that the bug has bit me again, I spent today mounting a Lyman peep sight on my TC Hawken. I'm having fun and I haven't been to the range yet. It s' good to be retired..
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[It s' good to be retired] boy is that the truth I don't know how I had time to do anything before
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