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Old 11-24-2008, 12:50 PM   #1
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Default any of you shoot pistol bullets out of your smokepoles?

the guy t one of our sporting goods stores said he shoots a normal 45 cal auto pistol bullet for his Muzzeloader...said they are the same size and they are i checked and you could get more of them cheaper and have more of a varity of types...just have to buy the sabots seperate...have been wanting to try it but havent got around to it have any of you all tried this and found better results than a normal say TC bullet
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Old 11-24-2008, 12:58 PM   #2
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Default RE: any of you shoot pistol bullets out of your smokepoles?

People did that a lot more when sabots first came out. The problem is a 45 auto bullet is designed to mushroom at about 900 fps...what do you think happens if you drive it to 2000+ fps out of a muzzleloader? It fragments. This is why the market evolved for .40-.45 cal bullets designed to open in the 1500-2200 fps range for muzzleloaders came about.
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Old 11-24-2008, 01:06 PM   #3
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Default RE: any of you shoot pistol bullets out of your smokepoles?

I hunt with a Nosler Partition 260 HG. The HG stands for Hand Gun. All the popular XTP,Speer Gold Dot,etc are hand gun bullets.

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Old 11-24-2008, 01:21 PM   #4
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Default RE: any of you shoot pistol bullets out of your smokepoles?

Your Hornady XTP's as I understand it were handgun. For instance I shoot a 300 grain .44 caliber .430 bullet in a green harvester crushed rib sabot. My friend loads that same bullet for me that I shoot out of my Ruger Redhawk. He also loads a 240 grains bullet for me as well. Now I have no idea how hard that Ruger Redhawk pushed one, but I think my muzzleloader has it beat, other then I only get one chance instead of six...
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Old 11-24-2008, 02:11 PM   #5
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Default RE: any of you shoot pistol bullets out of your smokepoles?

I shoot a 200 grain 10mm XTP out of my 50 caliber. Load it 110 grains BH209 and a 50/40 crush rib sabot.
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Old 11-24-2008, 02:58 PM   #6
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Default RE: any of you shoot pistol bullets out of your smokepoles?

I shoot the 300 grain Speer Gold Dot bullet, designed for hunting with the 454 Casull handgun cartridge, and the 250 Gold Dot, designed for the .45 Colt. Both are excellent deer bullets.
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Old 11-24-2008, 04:00 PM   #7
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Default RE: any of you shoot pistol bullets out of your smokepoles?

A lot of those (44 mags etc) are on the higher end of the velocity range for handguns. I'd consider those more appropriate than 45 ACP bullets.
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Old 11-24-2008, 05:42 PM   #8
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the guy t one of our sporting goods stores said he shoots a normal 45 cal auto pistol bullet for his Muzzeloader...said they are the same size and they are i checked and you could get more of them cheaper and have more of a varity of types...just have to buy the sabots seperate...have been wanting to try it but havent got around to it have any of you all tried this and found better results than a normal say TC bullet
Yes, a lot of folks do. Great bullets in this class are Nosler Partition HG, 300g XTP (not the 250), Speer Gold Dot 250g and 300g. You can also buy bulk rifle bullets, like the Remington HP or the Speer 45/70 bullets. I shoot a Barnes Origonal 300g 45/70 bullet in my Savage at about 2350 fps, and they hold up VERY well. The Barnes TSX 45/70 bullet is another good bullet for a MLer, part number 45843. You mate a .452 pistol bullet with a .452 sabot and a .458 rifle bullet will work with an MMP Orange or a Crushed Rib sabot (made for .452 bullets).
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Old 11-24-2008, 09:49 PM   #9
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I do... I shoot .452 Gold Dots (250 & 300 grain) I shoot .451 Nosler partitions both 260 and 300 grain, but I also shoot .458 (45-70) 300 grain Noslers
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Old 11-25-2008, 01:59 PM   #10
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I shoot a Paper patched 500 S&W bullet in my 50 cal. Ron
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