sub bases

[dphobby]

Anybody try these?

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?id=0060608215805a&navCount=0&podI d=0060608&parentId=cat603775&masterpathid= &navAction=jump&cmCat=072608emailonly-email&catalogCode=EBC&rid=&parentType= index&indexId=cat603775&hasJS=true

I know you shouldn't need them if your sabot fits tight enough, but if you have a small amount of pressure getting past the sabot they might help?

[cayugad]

They are made for the very high velocity loads like found in the Savage. My understanding is they really will not help you much in a standard muzzleloader load. I have some, have used them and there was no improvement, but then I never shoot a magnum load.

[sabotloader]

dphobby

Where they really might be beneficial is with BH-209. When shooting BH you really need a good gas seal - they certainly could provide that.

[lemoyne]

I have tried them with several different powders and with the snug fitting sabots [MMP_HPH I could not tell any difference. I resd in one of the professional magazines that the best use for them was in loads of smokeless that were to hot for the sabot. Since I do not normally use much smokeless except in reloading metalic cartridges I can not say if that is true or not. Lee