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Old 04-21-2008, 01:10 PM   #1
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Default Ruined Renegade's Restoration Results

Hey guys, remember my Disappointing Day With The Renegade? http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2736181&mpage=1&key=&#273618 1

Well, after working the pittedbore over with naval jelly and oiled steel wool, I reshot the same loads I tried in my original range session -fifty yard five shot groups with 80 grains of Pyrodex RS and six different bullets. Did I have any improvement? Not really. Here's a short description of the results.

Patched balls - Still tearing up patches with groups in excess of six inches.
410 grain Hornady GP - Group went from 3 7/8" to 3 1/2".
320 grain REAL - Group went from 4 1/2" to 4 3/8".
250 grain REAL - Group went from 4 3/4" to 9" (what the hell!)
405 grain Lee .457 cast bullet in MMP orange sabot- Group went from 4 1/2" to 5" (bullet clearly not stable - evidence of wobble on target)
250 grain Gold Dot in Harvester crush rib sabot- Group went from 2 7/8" to 1 7/8".

The only thing that looked promising was the Gold Dots in crush rib sabots. Maybe the sabots are better a dealing with the pitting near the muzzle. So I figured I ought to explore that a little bit. I shot a group with 300 grain Gold Dots in crush rib sabots, and a group with 300 grain Remington Semi-Jacketed Hollow Points in MMP orange sabots. They actually shot better than anything else (targets below). Clearly, a little load experimentation around those bullets is in order. Looks like this barrel will never be a patched ball shooter - which is what I wanted - but it may turn out to be useful with a sabotted bullet.





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Old 04-21-2008, 02:11 PM   #2
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Semi I think you have more patience than I do...lol.
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Old 04-21-2008, 02:28 PM   #3
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that is half the fun of these rifles...

You might have to order a .58 caliber 1-70 twist from Green Mountain and put on that stock. Then you can shoot a roundball that will stop anything you want to hunt. Although I am sure the .54 caliber from them would do fine as well..
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Old 04-21-2008, 02:42 PM   #4
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You might have to order a .58 caliber 1-70 twist from Green Mountain and put on that stock. Then you can shoot a roundball that will stop anything you want to hunt. Although I am sure the .54 caliber from them would do fine as well..
BINGO! Exactly what I'm thinking - leaning toward the .54.
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Old 04-21-2008, 04:22 PM   #5
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Well I hope whatever endeavor you take semi - that it works out for you. Good Luck.
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Old 04-21-2008, 04:54 PM   #6
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I have a rusty oldrenegade barrel I am working on. My load I am having the best luck with is 80 gr of Pyrodex P and a felt wad between the powder and a 320 gr real bellet. I chronographed it at 1440. Ron
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:34 PM   #7
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Forgot to mention, I'm still thinking about chopping five inches off the barrel to see what it does. That will get me back past the worst of the pitting.
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isint naval jelly a rust converter? have you tried jb bore paste?. i would give it a try.
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Old 04-21-2008, 07:13 PM   #9
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isint naval jelly a rust converter? have you tried jb bore paste?. i would give it a try.
Yes it is. But I followed it with a long blast of carburetor cleaner, then 25 or 30 up & downs with oil saturated 0000 steel wool wrapped around a tight patch. Changed the steel wool after every five passes or so. It was pretty much down to shiny steel after that.
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Old 04-21-2008, 08:29 PM   #10
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Hey semi- you and sabot got to get together with those guns and take em on a weekend retreat!!!!
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