Chasam60

I only had a few minutes to shoot this AM and only took 3 shots. 1st shot in a clean oiled bore. Swabbed and reloaded. 2nd shot high left 1 1/4" I tried somthing I have wanted to do for some time. I swabbed as usual then ran a light oil patch,and loaded again. Same hole as 1st shot. Looked like a small figure 8. Has anyone else tried this,I have to get some more shots in soon to verify.

Charlie

LaneNebraska

Semisane did somthing like this with his Mustang, but I think he loaded on a clean Dry bore, then light oil patch swabbed down to the bullet tip.

Said it improved his groups sizes.

Semi???

Semisane

Yep! Loaded clean & dry - then a light oil patch to the bullet tip - shoot - swab bore with both sides of damp patch and both sides of dry patch - repeat. Get my best groups with this procedure. The bonus is that I'msighted in for a clean dry barrel with oil to the bullet tip. I left it loaded like that for four months. When I shot it the bullet went just where it was supposed to.

sabotloader

Chasam60

Yep, kinda been doing that for several years now.. I shoot T7 and I shoot my rifle prior to the season to verify POI... then I patch it with a windex patch - each time I shoot during the season -and them put a light coat of oil in the bore each time I might shoot it during the hunting season. The rifle never gets stripped down cleaned until the end of the hunting season or until I switch guns...

Funny part in all of this is the rule.... "when shooting sabots shoot from a clean dry bore" - my bore is always semi-clean and lightly lubed... works wonderfully...

In a recent conversation with Del Ramseyat MMP sabots was along this same line... I was asking about the difference(s) between the new Hornady "low Drag" red sabot and the standard MMP HPH-3p-EZ load... His response was that the Hornady is lubed (hornady specification) for easier loading - while the the 3p is unlubed. In my mind i am taking this to mean that somebody other than you and I have found the value oflightly lubed bore or sabot -

Now, the truth behind my decision - since I do hunt such lously weather here in Idaho for a big part of the season - i really did not want a dry unprotected bore - that is the real reason i started lightly lubing the barrel (prevent rusting) - but it served a couple of purposes for me...

I have splained this semi theoryto semi and i thought he was going to run a speriment... but again it works for me.

nchawkeye

Yep, same here...I do run another dry patch down, as I do for the first shot...

I have a theory that guys that claim that they have to foul the barrel before getting groups are not doing this...
I've never had a muzzleloader that I couldn't get to group with a clean bore...

Another point...the reason I started doing this, about 8-9 years ago, I was swabbing between shots with rubbing aclcohol, drying bore and shooting....The gun would group for about 4-5 shots, they they went to heck...I realized that the bullets weren't sliding down the bore as before...Added this step and it corrected the problem...

Chasam60

I was shooting the 200/40 XTP today,and they really slide down smooth with the oiled bore. Still good and tight,but smooth. I have wondered about this for some time since my first shot is usually the closest to center bull.

Charlie

Semisane

The info card that comes with Harvester Crush Rib sabots says "TO CHECK RIFLE FOR ACCURACY, CLEAN AND LUBE BARREL BETWEEN SHOTS - SEAT SABOT AND BULLET FIRMLY ON POWDER CHARGE".

Doe Dumper

Thats interesting. I know how much they always warn not to shoot a centerfire with a lubed bore.

sabotloader

Doe Dumper

Gee Whiz! I do that wrong also... During hunting season and rotten weather I do lighty lube my bore in the centerfires also... Just enough to prevent rust... I have no problem with it shooting where it is aimed...

Semisane

The issue with oil in a centefire bore is thatthe cartridge case expands upon firingand grips the side of the chamber - thus reducing stress against the boltface or breechblock. If there's oil between the cartridge case and the chamber wall you run a danger of excessive pressure against the bolt.