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Old 04-13-2008, 04:36 PM   #1
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As most of u-all know I ain't much of a PRB shooter, but to get in on some of the traditional shooting that goes on in this area - I really want to learn. I have made 4 or five feeble attempts to get this going.

Well, today was my best day so far... It is also myfourth attempt at a different powder. My first attempt was with T7, which for the most part shot really well but I had to keep the sharge way down to keep from burning the patch... + the old timers said I probably would be able to use it - if I needed to patch between shots at the shoots... So next came Pyro RS. I know a lt of people are very successful with it but I have never liked it - so with that mind set it did not work that weel for me. On to Jim Shockey Gold - a friend gave me some 2f to try - that stuff was gravel and I ended up with hang fires most of the time. I did like the condition of the bore afterwards though. So I bought a jug of JSG-3f for today - that stuff worked very well... I do wish it was a bit finer though...

Any way headed out to a new shooting are for me. One of the kids I coached way back in the day has a wheat farm just outside of town and has given me permission to shoot there. Price of gas forces me to find a place closer. I set the target a 50 yards and started shooting - I thought I got a very nice group... moved the target to 75 yards - shot another 3 shot group and I had not been so stuck on myself and "how good I could shoot" #3 would have been a better shot - but it was OK... These were the best PRB - groups I have ever shot...

After shooting these I gave on paper and decided to shoot clay pigeons - I really like breaking/hitting things and seeing the results... So I sent the bigger part of the shooting time placeing pigeons at different ranges for 25 to 75 yards and then picking them off. I am still not that good though a couple of the birds I had to shoot more than once - but by the end of the day I was learning to make the neccessary sight picture adjustments for the different ranges.

Got to clean my gun and a gun that my student had.... he watched me shoot for awhile and said he had a gun just like I was shooting that he had bought from a farmer when he was in high school. Said he had shot it once or twice in the 10 years he had it. I questioned him a little more about the gun - i wanted to know if it was a Renegade or a Hawken - so he went in and got it....It was a 54 cal Renegade (4 digit) serial number in near mint condition... with a tang peep sight and globe front sight.... Boy! did I fondle that gun... Next he said sell for $70 bucks - I never use it...

Here is today's target...




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Old 04-13-2008, 04:44 PM   #2
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Here is a picture of the other 54 Renegade...




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Old 04-13-2008, 05:23 PM   #3
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Sounds like a good day. Go with one gun comeback with two. Are you gonna try the JSG FFF with some sabots. Just curious If its worth a try.
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Very respectable groups. The other Renegade is nice too.. And I adore your sewing machine..........
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Old 04-13-2008, 05:56 PM   #5
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Old 04-13-2008, 06:04 PM   #6
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Ya! that dang sewing machine gets in the way a lot of times.... that is suppose to be a work bench for me... but,! I am not saying a word about it... other than maybe "honey, are you about done sewing" or something along those lines...

Just finished cleaning the barrel of the second Renegade - the bore was really rusty - seems like mostly surface rust - see no pitting and the lands a really sharp... it only takes a couple of passes and they will cut a patch. Dropped a bore light in and looks OK now and it is a 1/48 - thought it might be a 1/66.

I am going to try to shoot it next week and see how it shoots - probably shoot a couple of patches lubed with JB to finish polishing the bore.

I did not buy it from him yet... told him I would like to shoot it first - but I will have to pay him more than $70 - couldn't do that to one of my former students - student athletes - I would like to trade him either a Trade rifle or A&H inline for it... he might go for the inline - now that they are legal in Idaho again...

The best part was not making holes in the paper - but hitting the clay pigeons... they really break up when it with a slow moving 54 cal round ball...
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Are you gonna try the JSG FFF with some sabots.
Probably not... but I think it would work OK especially in an inline - but I think it would be a bit underpowered as compared to T7...
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Sorry about all of the bad luck, Sabotloader. First, you find a place to shoot closer to your house. That really sucks. Then you hit upon a powder that groups balls into one-inch at 50 yards - can't even get 1/4" groups. Then a guy forces an old rifle on you that youfor a ridiculous price, and gives you the opportunity to shoot it before you decide. Man, you just can't seem to catch a break.
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Well,?? He was a student of mine and I taught him all he knows about baseball... course he a nice guy on top of that + he runs the local Lenox Heating and Cooling place from which I bought my furnace - AC unit - gas fireplace +++ he and his brothers run the family wheat farm/ranch a bigone- which is known to have very nice bucks on it in the fall and even an occasional elk or two - not to mention a lot of pheasents - but I am not a bird hunter so they do not count...

See it is important "who you know"

And now that you put it that way it was a pretty good day... except the barrel on that new 54 is really dirty - I am still working onit,and the wind blew across my shooting draw all day.... and it is gonna rain tomorrow and Tuesday... so there is some "Corey" luck in their also.

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Uh-Oh! New forum term - "Corey Luck" - To be used only when something goes really wrong - like supergluing your fingers together. (Don't blame me Corey, blame Sabotloader.)
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