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ORIGINAL: rtoddstj1
I recently received a new savage 10ml-II need imput about these smokless powder guns and suggestions for scope and rings.
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http://dougva.proboards34.com/index.cgi?board=Savage
Don't get caught up in "hot-rodding the rifle", just read the tips and hints at the top of the forum.
Scope and rings. I have a Bushnell 3x9 with firefly, costs about $200 and is excellent. I have Weaver Grandslam bases. Read this:
http://www.randywakeman.com/ballltd121.htm
My suggests:
1) shoot the book loads with the book powders and the book bullets and get it shooting 1.5" or less at 100, easy to do wiht an XTP 250 or 300g.
2) Branch out into different bullets and powder that you read about on the various forums.
3. Some tips.
a) sabots must be tight, how tight, well "Golilocks tight", how much is goldilocks tight, well not loose so you can push them down with 1 hand, and not so tight you have to pound them down.
b) buy a better ram rod, an XS Power Rod is what I use, you will bend/break the Savage with "tight bullets and sabots"
c) seat bullet firmly with >>>all<<<<your weight on Ram Rod, not 25 lbs, not 30 lbs but all your weight on ram rod, you >>>will<<< have misfires if you do NOT, even with AA 5744 powder
d) As for bullets, well I am shooting 300 Barnes Origonal (.458 diameter) with Crushed Rib sabot (for .452 bullets)--don't ask me why it works, just believe "Grasshopper", it just does. I have shot all these
Barnes TMZ
TC SW
Knight Untimate Slam
Parker Ballistic Extreme
Harvester Scorpion PT
See here for how they shot in my gun:
http://www.the-gleasons.com/this_is_my_savage_10_ml_page.htm
e) You should buy a package of each of the following sabots:
MMP12, MMP24 and MMP 3 petal EZ Sabots, MMP shot black sabot from
www.mmpsabots.com
Harvester Crushed Rib, Red Crushed Rib for Savage, Harvester Black High Pressure from "Mid South Shooters Supply".
You will find Sabot thickness critical to good shooting of the Savage. If your going "long range" with the Savage (>= 200 yards) bullets to try are on my web page, but in addition add the Barnes Origonal.
Other Barnes bullets that shoot well in the Savage:
http://www.randywakeman.com/A%202008%20Look%20at%20Savage%2010ML-II%20Preferred%20Loads.htm
http://www.randywakeman.com/ballltd116.htm
http://www.randywakeman.com/ballltd115.htm
Actually you should read all of Randy's pages on Savage:
http://www.randywakeman.com/savage3.htm
You should NOT have trouble shooting 1.5" groups with the Savage at 100, you can shoot <1.0 groups if your up to it, the gun can at least. Most folks consider 4" groups at 200 good shooting, but I have seen several shoot 3" and better at 200 yards, but don't get caught up in that unless you want to buy 2 rifles, 1 for hunting and 1 for chasing accuracy. I guess you could buy two scopes 1 for hunting and 1 for chasing accuracy, although I have not see folks do that who are "into accuracy".
Chap Gleason
PS. "Why do I shoot Savage? Answer: 'Cause I can, it is not better than an inline only legal where I hunt, it is still MLing and with the new Blackhorn powder the line between Savage andinline substitute powders will indeed blur." I have only done this once in my life at 100 yards (actually 92.5 laser) and it was the 3nd time I shot my Savage after I got it, so your gonna get wowed.
new 10ml-II
