where to buy

[bigtim6656]

hey guys i am looking for some places to get a good deal and some info on new tc omegas trumiphs or knight muzzleloaders and assc.

Also what besides the gun primer and powder or pellets do i need to shoot and clean the gun correctly

[lemoyne]

http://www.grafs.com/fc/browse.php?page=4&p=3440&q=&v=&s=a z
http://www.grafs.com/index.php
http://www.midwayusa.com/black-powder
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/deptsearch1x.asp?dept=%4D%75%7A%7A%6C%65%6C%6F%61% 64%69%6E%67
This ought to give you a start.Lee

[gleason.chapman]

ORIGINAL: bigtim6656

hey guys i am looking for some places to get a good deal and some info on new tc omegas trumiphs or knight muzzleloaders and assc.

Also what besides the gun primer and powder or pellets do i need to shoot and clean the gun correctly

Read this: http://www.chuckhawks.com/clean_muzzleloader.htm. Cayugad will give a detailed list of essentials, that he can cut and paste in. Sabotloader can give you a picture of his dry box, with arrows to every item in his box. You need patches, some rubbing alochol and some windshield washer fluid to clean your gun. I buy patches from RMCSports, usually in 500, the round 2.5" patches are best. You need a separate cleaning rod, your ram rod will work, but it is easier to get a longer "range rod". Powder. Bullets. I love the bullet topic---I am very biased toward strong bullets not "mushrooming" or fragmenting bullets. I have an Omega and I get this accuracy in my Omega with 300g Nosler Partition HG bullets:

http://www.the-gleasons.com/noslerpartition300g.htm

3x9 Bushnell Elite Rainguard Firefly scope. Your on a "journey" now and getting to ML compentence takes patience, dedication and practice, but it is so much more fun that CF shooting.

I buy bullets from MidSouth shooters supply and MidwayUsa. I buy powder local, so I don't have to pay he $20 fee for haz materials.
Chap

[bigtim6656]

i think i got one more question which is better and easy to use for a beginner the omega or triumph

[gleason.chapman]

ORIGINAL: bigtim6656

i think i got one more question which is better and easy to use for a beginner the omega or triumph

I would have to say the Triumph, since it is an improved Omega. Chap

[bigtim6656]

what is improved on it i seen on midwayusa. there realy not much more
i even seen where they had them on sell a little cheaper i think

ORIGINAL: gleason.chapman

I would have to say the Triumph, since it is an improved Omega. Chap

[jbar174]

You may also want to check www.trophyshuntinggear.com.They specialize in T/C's and also sell Knight. I recently bought a Triumph and so far it has been great; easy to load and clean. I have only shot the 250 gr. Shockwaves and 300gr. XTP's with 777 pellets; itwill be very whitetail accurate.

Cleaning is simple, get some water, Windex, patches, brush/antiseize for the breech/plug,and a little oil for the barrel after a thorough cleaning.

Also, I swab the barrel after each shot with a Windex patch and follow up with a dry one. Cayugad may give a little more detail......

[Dominick]

http://www.reedssports.com/Category/main.taf?cat=2253

[sabotloader]

bigtim6656

Might try Bud's

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/36

[gleason.chapman]

ORIGINAL: bigtim6656

what is improved on it i seen on midwayusa. there realy not much more
i even seen where they had them on sell a little cheaper i think

The breech plug is improved with a "speed" breech, there is no blow back of the gun back into the trigger assembly. The stock is improved. I have an Omega, I had to send the gun back to TC and they replaced the Trigger Assembly, seems the blow back got back down into the trigger and eventually it would not hold the hammer back. That is the only flaw of the origonal Omega, and the Triumph fixes that I hear. I don't have a Triumph, but did read the product features and I know what happen to my Omega, so that is why it is improved. Accuracy is about the same. Cleaning is easier on the Triumph because of the speed breech. Chap