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Old 01-15-2008, 06:12 PM   #1
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Default 54 cal sabots ?????

Hello, I have a 54 cal great plains hunter rifle (1 in 32 twist). I have beenshootingREAL bullets., but now I want to try a 54 cal sabot. Problem here is that I cant find one that has the polymer tip.( I use that kind in my 50 cal knight and have great accuracy. ) so maybe if I purchase a box of 50 cal Hornady sst's and then purchase a different sabot that will work with the 54 cal lyman. Could I do that ??? If so what would I need from MMP. And I would like to use the 250 grain SST.
Thanks-a Bunch. Steve

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Old 01-15-2008, 06:32 PM   #2
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The 54 caliberMMP red sabot ismade for use with 45 caliber bullets of up to 300 grains.

http://www.mmpsabots.com/

Plus, Harvester makes a 54 caliber sabot for 45 caliber bullets.

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/department.asp?dept=%4D%55%5A%5A%4C%45%4C%4F%41%44 %49%4E%47&dept2=%43%4F%4D%50%4F%4E%45%4E%54%53 &dept3=%53%41%42%4F%54%53%20%4F%4E%4C%59&d ept4=%35%34%20%43%41%4C
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Old 01-15-2008, 06:47 PM   #3
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The 54 caliberMMP red sabot ismade for use with 45 caliber bullets of up to 300 grains.

http://www.mmpsabots.com/

Plus, Harvester makes a 54 caliber sabot for 45 caliber bullets.

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/department.asp?dept=%4D%55%5A%5A%4C%45%4C%4F%41%44 %49%4E%47&dept2=%43%4F%4D%50%4F%4E%45%4E%54%53 &dept3=%53%41%42%4F%54%53%20%4F%4E%4C%59&d ept4=%35%34%20%43%41%4C
Are the 250 grain sst bullets 45 cal ?? Thanks, Steve
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Old 01-15-2008, 07:09 PM   #4
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The SSTs made for 50 caliber riflesare 50 caliber sabots with 45 caliber bullets. I don't have any 250 grain SSTs, but the the 300 grain ones I have mic out at .452. I would guess the 250 grain ones are .452 also.
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Old 01-15-2008, 08:40 PM   #5
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steviebiggun,The purple sabot and the 50 Cal.300gr soft point or the Speer 300 or 325 GDHP give me excellant accuracy and are devistating on deer and boar. I use them with 140 gr RS in my System one 54 cal barrel, you can get 350gr, 400gr and 500gr. I have not use any of the heavy ones yet as I had such excellant results with the 300 gr. The 300gr soft point designed for the 50 cal Desert Eagle gives me very consistant minute of angle accuracy has a very high BC and while I have taken several deer and boar [including a big boar at a long angle] I have never recovered one as they all ways pass through leaving an exit hole about the size of a 50 cent piece.
Irregauardless of the popularity of the 50 cal I believe that using the bigger cal bullet gives more stomping power, which dont mean much with deer or boar but when it comes to bufflo moose big bear or elk I would us the 350 gr XTP or maybe even the 400gr but unless you are going to Africa the 500gr is a bit much. Lee

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Old 01-16-2008, 05:19 AM   #6
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Hello, I have a 54 cal great plains hunter rifle (1 in 32 twist). I have beenshootingREAL bullets., but now I want to try a 54 cal sabot. Problem here is that I cant find one that has the polymer tip.( I use that kind in my 50 cal knight and have great accuracy. ) so maybe if I purchase a box of 50 cal Hornady sst's and then purchase a different sabot that will work with the 54 cal lyman. Could I do that ??? If so what would I need from MMP. And I would like to use the 250 grain SST.
Thanks-a Bunch. Steve
Barnes makes the Expander MZ in a .54 cal here: http://www.barnesbullets.com/products/muzzleloader/expander-mz/

The 325g looks like what you want. Not a aerodynamic as the SST but certainly a thumper. Also BarnesXPB in .50 for Smith and Wesson will work in a .54 cal sabot:
http://www.barnesbullets.com/products/pistol/

And and TSX bullet .45/70 would work with the probper 54/45 Calsabot:
http://www.barnesbullets.com/products/rifle/tsx-bullet/

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Old 01-16-2008, 08:21 AM   #7
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Barnes makes the Expander MZ in a .54 cal here: http://www.barnesbullets.com/products/muzzleloader/expander-mz/

The 325g looks like what you want. Not a aerodynamic as the SST but certainly a thumper. Also BarnesXPB in .50 for Smith and Wesson will work in a .54 cal sabot:
http://www.barnesbullets.com/products/pistol/

And and TSX bullet .45/70 would work with the probper 54/45 Calsabot:
http://www.barnesbullets.com/products/rifle/tsx-bullet/

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Old 01-16-2008, 10:11 AM   #8
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I just received some 54 /.50 sabots from MMP I arder 100 remingtom .50 cal 385 gr on sale from Midway USA 100 for 35.00 I going to try them in my 1x 48 twist. That is what the sabot is advertised for. The bullet is hollow point should make one big hole.
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Old 01-16-2008, 01:14 PM   #9
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Johnmorris, you may have to experiment around a bit,since I already had the stuff any way I played with my 1-48 TC renagade and my purple sabots; mine likes the 300gr bullets and a 110gr load of RS, I tried the 350gr but they did not have the accuracy that the 300 did in my gun. Lee
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Old 01-16-2008, 06:51 PM   #10
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I am shooting them out of a 24 in lyman 54 flintlock I am just trying lots of stuff,.
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