I dont do much muzzleloading and where I live most shots are usually 100 yds or less. I normally shoot 100 grains of american pioneer powder and line up about an inch high at 50 yds. I leave for Ohio on Wednesday and the shots are going to be much longer and I was hoping to get to where my CVA Kodiak was shooting well out past 150 yds. Im not too experienced with a muzzleloader and was wondering if 100 grains was enough to shoot at that distance or will it require 150. For some reason, most of my hunting buddies believe that if you shoot 150 grains of powder, alot of the powder doesnt even ignite till its out of the barrel. Help me out fellas!
Well, if you don't even know if your rifle will group as well with 150 as with 100 then you sure don't need to be hunting with it...Just adding more powder does not mean you can hit what you are shooting at....
Before the introduction of the Magnum rifles, the old inlines used to shoot 100 grains all the time and do the same distance shooting they are doing now. White tail deer are not that hard to penetrate. If you have an accurate load with 100 grains and a good bullet, and can place your shots, there really is no need for the 150 grains of powder. I shoot loose powder and my favorite load is 110 grains of Triple Se7en 2f and a Nosler 260 grain Partition out of my Knight Disc. I would have no doubt that with that.. 200 yards would be a possible shot, IF I PRACTICED MORE AND WAS SURE OF MY ABILITIES.
What bullet are you shooting? Have you ever tried to shoot 150 yards and see if you can place your shots?
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i only use 80 grains pyrodex p and a 225 grain powerbelt and am only 4" low @ 150 yards. The bullet still packs a big punch for that distance and with only 80 grains.
Just remember that a 45-70 used a 405 grain bullet with only 70 grains blackpowder and would kill a Bison out to 200-300 yards.
If 150gr groups just as well as 100, then use it. I prefer more powder for longer distance shooting. Improved energy andtrajectory.Remember, practice first...and if you're using pellets, toss thosepieces of **** out and get some loose powder so youdon't have to experiment in 50gr intervals .
Perhaps a little different approach would get you the best results. I suggest that for long range accuracy is the most important componant to get that you need to pick a good bullet and sabot that will hold 2 inch groups at 100yds as for the powder load get loose powder and shoot groups with it every 10 gr untill the group opens up over two inches then lay your targets out in front of you it wont be hard to tell what load is best. Lee
Also sight in 2 inches high at 100yds and chek your drop at your max range when you find that best load, this has worked well for me with all mine.
I dont do much muzzleloading and where I live most shots are usually 100 yds or less. I normally shoot 100 grains of american pioneer powder and line up about an inch high at 50 yds. I leave for Ohio on Wednesday and the shots are going to be much longer and I was hoping to get to where my CVA Kodiak was shooting well out past 150 yds. Im not too experienced with a muzzleloader and was wondering if 100 grains was enough to shoot at that distance or will it require 150. For some reason, most of my hunting buddies believe that if you shoot 150 grains of powder, alot of the powder doesnt even ignite till its out of the barrel. Help me out fellas!
I think a little differently I guess.Based on yourownwordsin the first paragraph of the post3 days isn't long enough to get accustom to being able to shoot further then your use to...little alone change things up. Not meaning to be rude but I spend a lot time shooting past the conventional 100 yard target board and even still their are factors that I consider prior to even thinking about flipping the safety. The BC of ML bullets causes for steep trajectory changes in even perfect conditions not to mention factprings additional parameters such as ambient temp changes, humidty and wind!
BTW adding powder isn't the answer. It may work but it may not, accuracy is still number one in my books with it comes condifence and then it is just practice to be able to use it in your situation.
I would stick with what you know and if it means not taking the shot this time...that's huntin'!!
I dont do much muzzleloading and where I live most shots are usually 100 yds or less. I normally shoot 100 grains of american pioneer powder and line up about an inch high at 50 yds. I leave for Ohio on Wednesday and the shots are going to be much longer and I was hoping to get to where my CVA Kodiak was shooting well out past 150 yds. Im not too experienced with a muzzleloader and was wondering if 100 grains was enough to shoot at that distance or will it require 150. For some reason, most of my hunting buddies believe that if you shoot 150 grains of powder, alot of the powder doesnt even ignite till its out of the barrel. Help me out fellas!
100g is all you need, your buddies are right. As for shooting 150 yards, about any bullet will do that fine if you sight in 3" high at 100 yards, in that way your shooting thru a 6" pipe from 0 to about 180 yards with a 300g bullet like a Nosler Partition. Use a strong bullet at 100g of powder.
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Maybe I should have been more specific. I have probably taken 5 deer with a muzzleloader all 100 yds or less, and maybe 25 with a rifle, so i am experienced in regards to shooting a scoped firearm. I am a good shot. However, I am not experienced when it comes to powder grainage and loads and that part ofmuzzleloading. I am not just going to load up mykodiak and go to the woods. I leave Thursday and havefrom now until then to find something that worksout to 150+ yds. Thank you all for your help and I'll let you knowwhat I find is working in my gun...from what ya'll have said, 100 grains should be plenty for what i need.
I was just on the Hodgdon website and was suprised to see that their max load recommendation for their tripple seven 50 grain powder pellets was two pellets or 100grains of powder.
Do any of the these company's recommend using 150 grains? From what I have read it seems there are more negatives than positives when goingto that highof apowder charge.
100 grains vs. 150 grains
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