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Old 10-15-2007, 05:41 PM   #1
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i've shot a bunch of deer in the past three years wiht my omega but i'm having troubles gettin a pass through. i shoot 100 grainstriple7 with 295gr aerotip Powerbelt. iswitched to a aerotip from the hollowpoint cuzfriends told me it would help. but now i jus get a entry wound i can shove my FIST in!!! withoutan exit wound!the deer usually drop in like 30yds but its hard to get a blood trail. any suggestions?

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Old 10-15-2007, 05:52 PM   #2
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You might try the 270 gr platinum bullet or 348 gr aerotip. Suppose to hang together better.

You might also try lowering the powder charge to 80-90 grains. You will probably get better penetration with a lower charge with powerbelt.
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Old 10-15-2007, 05:58 PM   #3
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PowerBelts are known for this...You can go to a 348 PB or better yet, go to a
250 SST...Its a longer range bullet anyway...
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Entry wound is the size of a fist and you cant get a blood trail???
If you want a pass through, you have to hit behind the shoulder in the lungs.

225 grain aerotip powerbelt, 80 grains t7. No pass through but a darn good blood trail.



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Old 10-15-2007, 06:21 PM   #5
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150gr powder and a 250gr Barnes Expander ought to do the job
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:21 PM   #6
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Default RE: i cant get a pass through!!!!

Well it seems that no pass through could be blamed on the design of the bullet. I would suggest that if a pass through is that important, then change to a bullet that will pass through. Although if you're having good luck hitting and taking game with the load, it is kind of hard to leave a known preformer.
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:25 PM   #7
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This is typical of powerbelts, especally with a load that equal to about 120gr RS the recomended load is 70 to 90 gr RS.
If you really want consistant pass throughs try a 300gr Shock wave or 300gr Gold Dot or a 460 No excuses. Lee
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:32 PM   #8
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You might try the 270 gr platinum bullet or 348 gr aerotip. Suppose to hang together better.

You might also try lowering the powder charge to 80-90 grains. You will probably get better penetration with a lower charge with powerbelt.
+1. If you want Pass thru, then try a ShockWave Bonded or a regular SW or a Barnes.
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:53 PM   #9
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i've shot a bunch of deer in the past three years wiht my omega but i'm having troubles gettin a pass through. i shoot 100 grainstriple7 with 295gr aerotip Powerbelt. iswitched to a aerotip from the hollowpoint cuzfriends told me it would help. but now i jus get a entry wound i can shove my FIST in!!! withoutan exit wound!the deer usually drop in like 30yds but its hard to get a blood trail. any suggestions?
Switch to 110 2f T7, 300 gr Nosler Partition, Win 209 Primerand you'll get the holes you want! This load shoots nicely in my Omega and is accurate out to 200 yds and still maintains over 1000 ft lbs energy at that range. Zero at 153 yds for a 6 inch kill zone and you're good to200 yds.
I shot this load over a chronograph at the muzzle and 100yds, so I know those numbers to be accurate and I suppose the math takes over from there cause I don't trust myself to shoot over the chrony at 200. lol

Load Data
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Name: .451 Cal, Nosler Partition PP, 300 grn
Ballistic Coeff: 0.199
Bullet Weight: 300
Velocity: 1914
Target Distance: 250
Scope Height: 1.500
Temperature: 70
Altitude: 500
Ballistic Data
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Range Elevation Velocity Energy ETA Drop Max Y 10mph Wind Deflect
0 yds -1.50 in 1914 fps 2440 fpe 0.000 sec 0.00 in -1.50 in 0.00 in
25 yds 0.67 in 1825 fps 2219 fpe 0.040 sec 0.31 in -0.52 in 0.17 in
50 yds 2.18 in 1740 fps 2017 fpe 0.083 sec 1.28 in -0.27 in 0.74 in
75 yds 2.95 in 1658 fps 1831 fpe 0.127 sec 2.97 in 0.19 in 1.68 in
100 yds 2.95 in 1579 fps 1660 fpe 0.174 sec 5.45 in 0.86 in 2.95 in
125 yds 2.12 in 1502 fps 1502 fpe 0.222 sec 8.75 in 1.79 in 4.52 in
150 yds 0.29 in 1430 fps 1362 fpe 0.273 sec 13.06 in 3.02 in 6.63 in
175 yds -2.63 in 1363 fps 1237 fpe 0.327 sec 18.46 in 4.59 in 9.24 in
200 yds -6.73 in 1301 fps 1127 fpe 0.383 sec 25.03 in 6.54 in 12.28 in
225 yds -12.06 in 1243 fps 1028 fpe 0.442 sec 32.84 in 8.90 in 15.74 in
250 yds -18.84 in 1191 fps 944 fpe 0.504 sec 42.10 in 11.74 in 19.71 in
275 yds -27.16 in 1144 fps 872 fpe 0.568 sec 52.89 in 15.08 in 24.12 in
300 yds -37.14 in 1104 fps 812 fpe 0.635 sec 65.35 in 18.99 in 28.97 in
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:56 PM   #10
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You may or may not get a pass through with a regular Shockwave/SST: Most of my shots on hogs and deer were not pass throughs.All except onewere bang flops or near bang flops. The sole exception was a buck that was hit low in the shoulders and required a finishing shot.
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