Then new UC short conicals

cayugad · 09-13-2007, 01:02 PM

I had casted up a bunch of conicals from my new custom LEE mold. The mold was designed for the White rifle, but my interest was really peeked because the weight of the conicals is less then the 500 grains I like, and when reduced should put them somewhere around 430 grains I figured. Which I was then thinking, the other inlines might shoot them or even the 1:48 twist rifles. They actually weighed out around 445.6 grains on average. And I measured them today with my new digital caliper and they are .5050 on the head.

I bought a press from LEE and ordered a custom .504 sizer to make all the conicals uniform. I am waiting on the custom sizer. And I sat there looking at those hundreds of conicals and couldn't stand it any longer. So yesterday afternoon, I tried to see if they would slip down the barrel of the White Ultra Mag. Well they did.

I could not take it anymore, so I grabbed up the rifle and powder and a box of unlubed conicals and headed outside. I smeared some lube on the first one and loaded 70 grains of Triple Se7en 3f. I had no idea where they were going to hit, and also noticed that some of the conicals I was shooting should have been thrown back in the pot.

70 grains was not working. They were sending fliers all over the place. So I dropped the charge to 60 grains of powder and they worked a little better. But I was not happy. So I then jumped the charge to 80 grains of Triple Se7en 3f and they finally started to group. they were hitting a little low and to the left, but they were grouping. All the shooting was done at 50 yards.

I have a lot of things I want to try to make them a great accurate shooting conical, such as different powders, wads, sizing, lubes, etc.. so it should be a lot of fun.

The .508 proved to be a very poor guess on my part, trying to read an old plastic caliper that does not do a good job anymore. The new one shows them as .505.

Raider2000 · 09-13-2007, 01:45 PM

I may have to look into getting myself a few of these type of bullets to try after the season is over...

cayugad · 09-13-2007, 04:59 PM

Bull Shop Conicals also got a few of these mold and will be offering them as a production conical as I understand it. Trouble is, Dan might have headed south to Montana by now to escape the Alaska cold.

Raider2000 · 09-13-2007, 07:01 PM

& just think I keep threatening my wife that I'm going to pack up the family & move to Alsaka for the more cooler weather...

Then again Moma tells me that I have bumped my head too.. ô¿ô

MLKeith · 09-13-2007, 07:15 PM

Dave: Lee must have the cherry to make these molds; so how would one order a mold like that? Does it have a number? Who do you contact and how?? My three White .504's might just like the bullet too. I have a couple of sizing presses (two old Lyman ones and one of the newer style). I assume that the sizing dies that you got will work in the Lyman press as well as probably the RCBS sizer press as they both use similar dies. Who did you order the sizing die from?? (Lots of questions; should keep you from getting bored). By the way I am really liking the KRB7. It functions neat and feels great bringing to shoulder. Got to shoot soon!!!

cayugad · 09-13-2007, 07:50 PM

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Dave: My three White .504's might just like the bullet too.

I want to cast some more and be a little more careful. I thought I did a good job casting but saw a lot of flaws. I did note that I had the lead too hot the other day when I casted, so I will make adjustments there. I'd pour the mold and have to stand there until the lead would finally stop being molton. Then my mold was getting too hot I think. Also when the sizing dye gets here, then I can check them too.

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Lee must have the cherry to make these molds; so how would one order a mold like that? Who do you contact and how??

I have no idea other then calling LEE Precision and asking them. You can get a hold of LEE at 1-262-673-3075. That is their main office. The other thing you might do is see if anyone on the White Boys board wants to sell one. Some of them bought extra molds.

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Does it have a number?

none that I can find.

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I assume that the sizing dies that you got will work in the Lyman press as well as probably the RCBS sizer press as they both use similar dies. Who did you order the sizing die from??

I ordered the sizing die from LEE also. $25.00 including shipping. 4-6 weeks before I get it. You can only order dimensions like .504 not .5045. These conicals actually measureed .505 so there will not be a lot of lead to remove.

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By the way I am really liking the KRB7. It functions neat and feels great bringing to shoulder. Got to shoot soon!!!

I wish that rolling block was never made. That Knight rifle really has my interest. But I have too many rifles as it is. Of course one more would not hurt. It is getting cool here. Supposed to snow tonight. So shooting will only get better.

Underclocked · 09-13-2007, 08:38 PM

LEE won't even let you add molds to an existing special order once the order is placed. It might be a little tough to get them to choke up one mold.

Dave, I think you'll get there with those bullets.

Woodgoat got there in a hurry with his. 65 grains of FFg Swiss and he's happy. Can't say I blame him.

And Batchief's first outing putting 5 in one hole at 50 yards wasn't too shabby.

Nothing purdier than lubed UC Shorts.

I might even shoot some one of these days.

cayugad · 09-13-2007, 08:40 PM

I am sure I will get them to shoot. I just need to work on them a little.

Underclocked · 09-13-2007, 08:57 PM

and hold out for the KP1.

Redpep · 09-14-2007, 06:53 AM

U-C just send me 25 of em, I'll compare them to Dan's 460s. I'll shoot them out of my U-Mag