I took the deer creek out to see if my POI changed any by switching to fffg triple7, I had my target preset from the day before at 75 yards and so i went ahead with that to see how high my shots would be. 3" high and a tad to the left. Movement from me more than likely. But as usual, I got a ever so slightly hangfire on my second shot and if it would have gone off normally..... Well, just judge where it would have been. I say it would have been between #1 and #3 shot if she would have gone off correctly. Seems that she'll be good out to 150 yards but 4" low. If those deer are still where they were last year, Im taking one home with me. I i measure outside to outside, i come up with 1"