repsond to what muzzleloader to buy

bigtim6656 · 08-21-2007, 02:23 PM

ok alot of you had good info but had a few questions so thought i would just start a new post

first money is will not be in play when i go to decied which one to buy as i do not wont to buy something junk but i do not wont to spend enough to buy a house either
second as for wethier i wont a modern or tradtional which ever will give me the best group and will last longer and be easy to clean i do not care about old stuff
and here in indiana i can use smokeless power but i plan to start traveling around the country again and might do some hunting in other state what about a tc encore since you can go from rifle to muzzleloader to shotgun or is that just a bad idea

cayugad · 08-21-2007, 02:37 PM

There is nothing wrong with a T/C Encore at all. As you stated, it does give you the ability to change barrels out and make the rifle into a number of calibers. Actually if I had no, or few rifles, I might even go that route. The thing you need to consider is the warranty, customer satisfaction, and over all performance. I think the Encore (since you like that idea of changing barrels) a very good choice.

If you want just a muzzleloader, then you could look at a number of different rifles out there. The T/C Triumph & Omega, the Knight Rolling Block, and the new KP-1 if it ever gets out on the market, as that is another rifle you can change out barrels to make different rifles.

If you go traditional then go with a .54 caliber if possible. I would look at a Lyman Great Plains & Trade Rifleor a T/C Big Bore in .54 or .58 caliber.

StillHunter90 · 08-21-2007, 03:12 PM

I just bought an omega and I like it a lot. Very nice muzzleloader. Its a big step up from the cva I use to use. The encores are sweet though and it sounds like your probably gonna use the other barrels so it would be worth the money for sure. Like mentioned that new knight kp1 looks good and is "supposed" to be an improvement over the encore but who knows. Also like mentioned it isnt out yet so who knows when youll be able to check one out.

Flatland Hunter · 08-21-2007, 04:30 PM

For what you pay for an Encore and all the extra barrels you can get a Savage 10MLII and a nice run of the mill sidelock... or a Knight Wolverine with an exposed ignition for places like CO...

flint head · 08-21-2007, 04:52 PM

Go with the Encore... that is an excellent choice!

CamoCop · 08-21-2007, 05:29 PM

if you go with the encore pro hunter, you're gonna have to put a second mortgage on your house. their like $750.00 here. i already own a Pro Hunter in a centerfire caliber. i was looking in to buying the .50 cal. barrel for it until i found out i could buy a new complete muzzleloader cheaper. i ended up buying the Traditions Pursuit Pro .50 caliber with the black synthetic stock and nickle barrel for $320.00 at Bass Pro. just the Pro Hunter .50 caliber barrel was like $480.00 at Bass Pro and the forend was another $80.00. so i bought a new muzzleloader, rings, mounts and a scope for virtuallywhat i would have spent just on the barrel alone for my Pro Hunter.

my Traditions also has the long 28" fluted barrel which they claim to be very accurate out to 200 yards. i haven't had time to shoot it yet, but i'll let ya'll know how it did when i do.

Wolfhound76 · 08-21-2007, 05:45 PM

Lot's of good answers here. Since you say you plan to travel and hunt I'd opt for something that isn't smokeless. Something 209 primed will do well enough for you. The Knight Rolling Block looks interesting. The Omega's ok too. If your bargain hunting some of the older Knights like the Extreme and Disc are very reasonable these days.

Whatever you get put Warne bases on it and Warne Quick release rings. Make sure whatever scope you buy will let you leave the sights on so when you hunt states that don't allow scopes you can pull the scope and have the sights on and ready to go. There's still a few backwards states that don't allow optics.

oldrookie · 08-21-2007, 07:36 PM

If you want barrel options, you might want to look at the CVA Optima Elite. All barrels are bergara barrels....those that have em love them. I think bergara are making TC barrels also. Good luck!

gleason.chapman · 08-22-2007, 05:35 AM

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ORIGINAL: CamoCop

if you go with the encore pro hunter, you're gonna have to put a second mortgage on your house. their like $750.00 here. i already own a Pro Hunter in a centerfire caliber. i was looking in to buying the .50 cal. barrel for it until i found out i could buy a new complete muzzleloader cheaper. i ended up buying the Traditions Pursuit Pro .50 caliber with the black synthetic stock and nickle barrel for $320.00 at Bass Pro. just the Pro Hunter .50 caliber barrel was like $480.00 at Bass Pro and the forend was another $80.00. so i bought a new muzzleloader, rings, mounts and a scope for virtuallywhat i would have spent just on the barrel alone for my Pro Hunter.

my Traditions also has the long 28" fluted barrel which they claim to be very accurate out to 200 yards. i haven't had time to shoot it yet, but i'll let ya'll know how it did when i do.

Agree with you on the Pro hunter barrel costs, outta sight.

Bigtime6656, if you compare a Savage 10ML to an Encore Pro Hunter this is what you get:

http://www.randywakeman.com/ballltd120.htm

The Savage is a better buy and you can use either Smokeless or BP or 777 in it. Shoots very accurate 1.5" outta the box (first time in my life I have ever done this at 100 yards):

http://www.the-gleasons.com/TC_Shockwave_300g_2007_06_02_AA5744_44g_FederalPri mer_default%20sabot.jpg

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