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Old 08-20-2007, 09:15 AM   #1
 
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o.k. people , i'm new here so hello to everyone . i've been reading some threads and i would like to know what is your favorite bullet for deer and hogs . i have had some success with cva 295 powerbelts , and the cva 300gr big game bullet , but the penatration/ blood trails ,are not great .i shoot a cva hunterbolt magnum , i usually use 2- 50 gr pyrodex pellets , but i also have 3 lbs of pyrodex rs that i got from walmart last year for 3bucks a pound . any advise will be useful. of the 5 deer and 3 hogs i've shot in the past 4 years , only one complete pass thru .though i recovered all deer and two hogs , it wasnt easy .all shots were at less than 125 yds , 40 being the shortest .I use a scope ,
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:34 AM   #2
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o.k. people , i'm new here so hello to everyone . i've been reading some threads and i would like to know what is your favorite bullet for deer and hogs . i have had some success with cva 295 powerbelts , and the cva 300gr big game bullet , but the penatration/ blood trails ,are not great .i shoot a cva hunterbolt magnum , i usually use 2- 50 gr pyrodex pellets , but i also have 3 lbs of pyrodex rs that i got from walmart last year for 3bucks a pound . any advise will be useful. of the 5 deer and 3 hogs i've shot in the past 4 years , only one complete pass thru .though i recovered all deer and two hogs , it wasnt easy .all shots were at less than 125 yds , 40 being the shortest .I use a scope ,

Welcome to the forum. It is good to have you here.

If penetration and blood trails is what you want, then you are looking for a bullet that will pass through every time (or close to it). Some of the better bullets for penetration are Barnes Expanders, Shockwaves (which come in two hardness levels), and some of the conicals out there. Some other great bullets are Nosler, Speer, and Remington.

Barnes are great bullets but expensive. There are like throwing a dollar bill down range every time you squeeze off a shot. Not to bad when hunting, but on a target range can get a little expensive. I shot off fifteen of them the other day testing a Knight.

Shockwaves are a moderate to expensive bullet depending on how you look at it. They do have excellent penetration. In fact some say too much as they do not expand. Others say they expand just fine. On deer and hogs I think you would need only the normal shockwave.

Speer makes a Gold Dot that people seem to like a lot. They come in all weights so I am sure you could find one that shoots well out of your rifle.

Nosler is like Barnes, great bullets but expensive IMO.

Conicals are often times over looked but do provide excellent penetration, expansion, and knock down. Maxiball, Great Plains Conicals, No Excuses Conicals are just some of them out there. Whether your rifle will like conicals is again, who knows until you try.

The last I mention is a Remington. I shoot a 405 grain Remington Flat Point .457 diameter out of my Staghorn Magnum with 90 grains of Pyrodex RS powder with excellent results. This big flat bullet seems to be a good hard hitting projectile. It seems to expand well, but so far nothing in four legs has let me test the penetration ability of it. The bullet is made to be shot out of a 45/70 government rifle. Which again, are not fast shooters, but hard hitters. You might want to look into them as well.

I am sure there are other people with better choices for bullets to try. That no pass through is a pain when the critter runs off and does not leave a good blood trail. Then it is the job of the tracker to make you look good. Again, welcome to the forum. Good to have you here.
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Some one make some popcorn. This is going to be a long one. Tom.
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Old 08-20-2007, 01:42 PM   #4
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Really tough question... cause everyone has their favorites and not much is going to change their minds...

I agree with Cayugad with his list, but i would put the Nosler 260gr .451 partition ahead of the Barnes, and then follow that with a 250gr - .452 Speer Gold Dot.

Another person that frequents this site site might tell you that the 10mm (40 cal) 200 grain SW might be the best answer to your question....

Good luck on any choise you make....
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Ever try a heavier powerbelt like a 338 or 348 grainer?

a 295'er blowing through a hog? Now that cant be!
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:19 PM   #6
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I'm going to use a Knight/Barnes Red Hot with Crushed Rib Sabots this fall. 250gr groups good and I'm going to try some 300gr as soon as it cools down and I can get to the range. Of all the bullets talked about on this site, I've never heard any negative remarks aboutthe Red Hots. This will be my first year with a muzzleloader.
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Close range, you might try some XTPs.
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:45 PM   #8
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Don't hunt hogs, but for deer I use only Barnes Expanders. Every deer I've shot, and every deer I've seen shot with them dropped on the spot as long as the hit was in the chest area. A buddy of mine shot low and still dropped the buck in it's tracks, but that was pure luck. He took two legs off with the shot.
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I like the 250 grain MZbullets from Barnes. They do the job well. I haven't had one stay in an animal yet. They always zip through. I like the Winchester platinum tips better but the last I knew they were discontinued.
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Buy some 250 or 300 grain XTPs or Shockwaves and you'll be happy.
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