NEED HELP WITH A MOLD

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I just got my new Knight long range hunter. I am wanting to cast a bullet that is similar to the White slip fit bullet. I have not checked the bore yet, but it is suppose to be between .500 and .502-which is slightly smaller than the White bore(.504???). I think I can size the bullet down a couple of thousanths. Does anyone know where I can get a mold that is the same, or very close to the White slip fit bullet? Someone told me to look at NEI. Someone told me they were the ones that made the White bullet mold. I have looked on their site three times and I can not find it, but that could be my mistake(probably is). Tom.

[cayugad]

Right now, LEE is building a mold for a number of us White shooters. It will be a large conical around 460 grains in weight. It will come out .505 -.507 (approximately if all goes well). I can then put that through a $18.00 bullet sizing dye and bring that down to .504. The sizing dye that LEE sells is a .501 so I want to get a couple of them. One I will leave alone for shooting .501's out of my Knights and Black Diamonds, the other I will grind out to the .504 that I want for casting to the White.

Start checking the Lyman, LEE, and some of the other mold makers and see if they have a bullet between .505 - .515 that interests you. Then get some reducing sizing dyes and bring them down to the size you want. Or perhaps there is someone that will part with one of their molds on the White rifle site as some bought a number of the molds and might sell one.

One other thing I have noticed is, my Knights do not like to shoot conicals all that well. Now there is one conical out there they do shoot well. They are called Saber Tooth conicals. My Disc rifle likes the 300 grain Saber Tooth. The next time I order I am going to get some of the 350 grain Saber Tooth. They do shoot the 250 grain also, but the 300 seems to be the most accurate.

What you might want to do to save you lots of money and headaches.. order some .501, .502 & .503 conicals from Dan at Bull Shop conicals. He has them in weights of 400, 460, & 500 grain (and larger) and see if your rifle even likes conicals before you make this major investment. Dan will size them to the diameter you want. You will then know what weight your rifle MIGHT like and what diameter.

[HEAD0001]

I have never sized a bullet more than 1 or 2 thousandths. I wonder what would happen if you had to size it .003 or .004??? I will search the Lee molds. Thanks, Tom.


Update: Lee actually shows a good looking bullet for the 500 S&W. It looks like it is dropping at .501 and 440 grains. It shows as a gas check design. I wonder how the GC design would affect accuracy without the GC??? A wad maybe??? Tom.








Ballistic Coeff.
.296

Mold Code
C501-440-RF

[eldeguello]

ORIGINAL: HEAD0001

I have never sized a bullet more than 1 or 2 thousandths. I wonder what would happen if you had to size it .003 or .004??? I will search the Lee molds. Thanks, Tom.


Update: Lee actually shows a good looking bullet for the 500 S&W. It looks like it is dropping at .501 and 440 grains. It shows as a gas check design. I wonder how the GC design would affect accuracy without the GC??? A wad maybe??? Tom.

Tom, I use the Lyman 457122HP .45/70 bullet in two .45 muzzleloaders. I size it down from 457 to .454, then to .451. This dowes not seem to affect its accuracy at all. However, it is a plainm base bullet, but I do use a WonderWad under it, in both the .47/70 cartridge at .457", and in the ML at .451". Very good bullet.

I THINK that if you use a wad under that GC bullet, it should work OK w/o the gascheck. However, if you sized it to a sliding fit WITH the gascheck in place, it should work OK. I don't think the presence of the sized-down gascheck would interfere with loading, and the bullet would still swage up to correct diameter on firing, even with the GC in place. I would try it both ways-with ther GC and W/O the GC. But I'd use a Wonmder Wad in both cases. I have found that I can shoot pure lead bullets with a Wonder Wad and NO OTHER lube, and get good accuracy with NO LEADING. This works for me at velocities up to 1700+ FPS.

This group was shot at 100 yards with a .50 Maxiball cast of pure lead, with ONLY a Wonder Wad under it for lubrication.



I get similar results from a .45/70 with nothing but a Wonder Wad for lube with PURE LEAD bullets, with both IMR 4064 and black powder at 1300+ FPS from the Lyman 457122HP bullet.......