which CVA?

[brushbustin]

I am going to purchase my first muzzleloader and i know nothing about them,so that is wre trusty huntingnet and you guys come in..I am tore between the CVA Wolf and the CVA Kodiak.If any of you guys have any exp. with these rifles i would appreiciate to hear what you have to say about them..The Wolf is break action and the kodiak is a pivot block action..Which one is a better action?

[sabotloader]

brushbustin

While, your question is certainly a good question you are not going to believe the miriad of answers you are probably going to generate....

Staying with the direct question.... Wolf or Kodiac in my mind it would be an easy choice the Kodiac.... I know that break action have worked for years in shot guns... but break actions do wear out, even the very best actions made for high dollar competition shot guns. So a CVA break action, of somewhat lesser quality than those most expensive shotgun actions is going to wear also. + I am an old guy guy - I beleive you have better accuracy from solid one piece gun.

Now here is one of the miriads.... of the CVA guns in their more modern line I would be more inclined to getting an Apex, CVA's copy of the Omega. There have been several people here pick up one of these guns from Cabelas and report very good things about them. I have to be honest in that I have not handled an Apex or a Kodiac in recent times to know if there is any difference in them other than the stock.

The only other thing I would caution you on if you were to buy a CVA is the barrel, not that it is weak or poor quality, but it's method of manufacturer. It is an extruded barrel, a barrel that is bored at the same time the barrel is being extruded. This often causes variations in the size of the bore in the length of the bore.... these variations are usually very slight and when shooting sabots usually do not cause a problem. Other barrels offered by many other companies are button bored from a blank and most often have less variations with in the barrel. What does this mean to me - not much in a hunting rifle, but if you are an accuracy nut like most of us are that may lead to some problems.

Good luck in your decision, but I am telling you when you get one and itshoots well for you - you will hooked - it really becomes infectious...

[frontier gander]

I'd go with teh winchester apex over the cva kodiak. More bang for the buck and it comes with a stainless steel barrel and camo stock. $229 on sale at cabelas.

[Tenmilephenom]

Ditto on the Apex. I bought one from cabelas. Tookit out two days ago and shot it 5 times. The last three you could cover with a quarter at 100 yards. T7 2 pellets-250gr shockwaves but I used the harvester crushed rib sabots with them. Was impressed with the acuracy right out of the box. Kerry

[sjsfire]

I'm new to muzzleloading so take my opinion with a grain of salt if you want. There are more experienced shooters here that will respond. I bought a CVA Wolf a while back. It preforms great, I'm getting good groups, it's easy to clean and mantain, and I plan on killing my first muzzleloading deer with it this fall. I didn't shop around, a buddy had this one new in the box and offered it to me for $100. As far as it not lasting because of the break open design I bet it will out last me. Once I get it set up with the bullet and powder I'm satisfied with to huntit will not be shot much. But thats just me, my Remington 1187 set up for deer sets in the gun safe all year long until Oct. when I drag it out and start shooting in preparation.I think the best thing you can do is find a retailer and go and shoulder different guns and see how they feel to you. Just because a gun costs more doesn't mean anything, it has to feel right. Good Luck, let us know what you get.

[lemoyne]

Why is your only choice CVA? Lee

[DUMB BASS]

1st four shots with my Wolf right out of the box. Took down a deer w/ open sights at 50 yds right where it stood. Couldn't get PBs to shoot out of mine/ others have??? I mostly bow hunt, but this gun was affordable and does what it needs to the 10 days a year I can use it. Do a search for other threads...

[frontier gander]

what were your loads with the powerbelts? i know my winchester wants between 110-120 grains powder to shoot them the best.

[outdoorslover]

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[cayugad]

It seems you have determined the two rifles you wish to choose from.So no other makes or model need be suggested. I have no experience with either other then one afternoon sighting in a Beartooth Magnum made by New Frontier. This is the same as the Wolf. That Beartooth tuned in very fast, was accurate, and while it had not the fit of the higher dollar rifles proved very servicable when hunting season came. The young man too a nice doe shooting 80 grains of Triple Se7en and a 245 grain Powerbelt.

The main thing is ... most any inline you purchase today will be a 100 yard rifle. You need to examine what you expect the rifle to do. If you're going to scope it and shoot out to 150 yards or more then I would go with the Kodiak. I am sure either of them will be a good shooting gun. Follow the recommendations of the manufacturer and you should have a safe a and happyexperience.