T/C Scout and trajectory

take1a · 02-25-2007, 01:51 PM

I'm hoping that some of you T/C Scout owners can give me some good ballpark ideas about what to expect with respect to the trajectory I might get with my Scout. I plan to use this gun to hunt deer, and would like to be able to shoot deer at 50, 100, or even as far out to 150 yards. I will be using a scope (not sure which one yet). My gun is 1:20 twist. I realize that different projectiles will have different ballistics, so I'm just looking for "ballpark" information.

Currently I'm thinking of shooting conicals, around 320 to 360 grains, with FFF of 90 grains. Obviously I'll adjust these plans depending on gun performance when I'm at the shooting range.

I'm sure there will be a drop of several inches between 50, 100, and 150 yards, but don't have a clue currently how much drop. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks.

SaskBushMan · 02-25-2007, 01:55 PM

My father has no problem dropping deer at 100yrds farther if need be out of his scout. He is shooting 100grns of pyrodex and a 240grnxtp (hornady).

lemoyne · 02-25-2007, 03:08 PM

To get a really decent trajectory for 150 with a short barrel limits you to be limited to 100gr loads adds to that limitation since you have a 1-20 twist which will usually shoot longer bullets best also enters into the picture.
What the answer my friend came up with was 50/40 blue sabot Shock Wave 200gr [this is a 40 caliber bullet in a 50 caliber barrel] it give both the sectional density and BC while still having a enough bullet lenght that it should shoot in your 1-20 twist it does quite well in his.
In case your interestedthis is what I worked up for him when I was shooting with him.
!800fps 90 gr Proydex 50/40, 200gr SW[Chrony average]
"0" @ 100yds
125yds -3inch 150 yds -7.25 [average]

Since he is shooting the load that groups best in his gun and its not max you might want to work with the load before you try to calulate any trajectory. Lee

Pittsburghunter · 02-25-2007, 03:12 PM

If you can find a copy of an Encore manual it has a great trajectory chart at the end of it. Even though the data was compiled using an Encore the data will prove true for any rifle shooting the bullets used with the same m/v.

The data is helpfull because they use many loads not just the magnum loads the Encore can shoot.

lemoyne · 02-25-2007, 03:19 PM

PittsburghunterIf you go to the TC page and click on manuels the correct one is there. Lee

take1a · 02-25-2007, 04:50 PM

Now that's the kind of information I was looking for. I'll look up the Encore trajectory information on T/C's website. I have a question for Lee though: Lee, you indicated that the velocity was !800 feet per second. Did you mean 800 feet per second, or 1800 feet per second? Sure hope it's the second one. I'm concerned that 800 would be too slow for penetrating deer bone.

lemoyne · 02-25-2007, 08:29 PM

take1a, that was suposed to be1800 actually the crony averaged a few feet more. I think I have some sticky keys on this old computer. Lee

take1a · 02-25-2007, 10:45 PM

Thanks Lee. That sounds like great projectile speed. In your post, you typed, "50/40 blue sabot, Shock Wave 200gr.... gives both the sectional density and BC".

Newbie questions:
1. what is "sectional density" and
2. what is "BC"?

And, a 3rd question: Iowa DNR regulations for legal muzzleloaders reads as follows: "Muzzleloaders: Flintlock or percussion cap, muzzleloading rifles or muskets between .44 and.775 caliber shooting single projectiles".

If I'm shooting a 50 caliber muzzleloader, but use the blue sabot with a 40 cal. Shockwave projectile (like your friend did), will I be legal for killing deer in Iowa with this combination?

trharder · 02-26-2007, 06:08 AM

Take1a,
I think in Iowa if you had 50 cal. stamped on your barrel you are
good to go without regard to bullet diameter, but that is a good
question. Iowa has pretty liberal ML laws. If you load it from the
muzzle, it's legal for the most part. You might want to call a game
warden about that bullet question though, just to be safe.

take1a · 04-01-2007, 08:19 AM

SaskBushMan quote: " My father has no problem dropping deer at 100yrds farther if need be out of his scout. He is shooting 100grns of pyrodex and a 240grnxtp (hornady)."

Question for SaskBushMan: Does your Dad use a scope on his TC Scout?