If it is one of the barrels from TOTW to fit T/C Hawkens it will come complete with ramrod ready to drop in the existing stock and lock assembly. When I got mine there was only one problem in that the under rib on the barrel was about 1/4 inch too long and had to be cut to allow the barrel to drop into the stock otherwise it would hit the front of the stock. I had a .54 Hawken and wanted a .50 barrel for it. I had to order the wider barrel as the .54 is a full inch across the flats. The .50 barrel is longer and a lot heavier (maybe too heavy) as the kids say "my bad".
The IBS (interchangeable barrel system) barrels aremade by Green Mountain Barrel Company. These are the same people that make all the barrels for Knight Rifles. They make barrels to fit a number of different rifles with twist to suit the needs of almost any kind of shooter. The barrels come fully assembled with breech plugs in place, bolster in place, bolster clean out screw, stainless steel hot shot nipple, ramrod, and sights. All the barrels I purchased in the past had excellent standard steel sights, but it is my understanding that they now come with steel Tru Glo Fiber Optic sights.
Some barrels do need slight adjustment in order to make them fit your Thompson Center Renegade or Hawkin stock. This can be done a couple ways, you can trim the forearm of the rifle off, or you can take a dremel tool and cut approximately 1/2 - 3/4 inch off the thimble rib that the ramrod slides along. The amount will vary from rifle to rifle. The hooked breech has fit perfect on all of mine. There used to be a problem in the past where the tang on some rifles were a different style and you then had to get a replacement tang from TOTW. This is a rare case I was told. And as I said, my rifles did not need the tang.
I can not stress enough the quality of the barrel that comes from Green Mountain. I have a number of them in different calibers, twists, even no twists at all and there is not a bad rifle in the batch...
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In your case the IBS may not and will not a be a true drop in if you are planning to drop in a CVA. "I think" someone maybe Sharpshooter found a drop in @ TOTW for a CVA.
Other than that iwould second everything Cayugad has said... I have had three of the LRH barrels and they were and are certainly great barrels.
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There are no drop in barrels to my knowledge for a CVA from Green Mountain. You could check with CVA and see of they have a source for other barrels. Green Mountain Barrel Company does make IBSbarrels for Thompson Center, Investarms, Lyman, and Cabela's (investarms). In these brands are a number of different models.
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You guys assumed correctly I was speaking of a drop-in for the CVA. My question however related to an earlier post about a custom drop-in from Long Hammock. I spoke with them again today and got "drop-in" clarified. Seems our(my) biggest challenge will be finding a breech plug to fit my tang. It's a hook breech and I gather there were multiple sizes made for the CVA's. But then, I'm thinking "they have a shop where they can make a rifled barrel, can't they make a breech plug or modify one to match?" I suspect I'll be asking that in our next conversation.
CVA made both types os breech plugs - Hook and Button Hook... You can order the a "tang" from CVA to replace your Button Hook Tang or you can install a TC tang in your rifle, but you wil have to do some inletting to make it fit. If you get a Hook tang from CVA you could also file it out to fit the breech hook on a TC type barrel.
Another problem will be the length of the under rib and the location of the underlug - each of these can be modified to fit the CVA stock also...
The biggest problem is the matching up of the hammer to the nipple of the TC type barrel. As you know CVA and TC do not use the same type breech plug at all.
Another alternative is you can order a replacement barrel from CVA, I think about $90, but it will be a 1/48 twist. I have shot sabots and conicals from my 1/48 CVA with very good luck - I mean good...
All of this can be done but as know now it is not a drop in change.
mike
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Sabotloader -I believe my breech plug is a "snail hook", or so Long Hammock is guessing. I don't know that term. Ideally, I'd like the faster twist barrel to have the same hook/tang so the two barrels are truly interchangeable. I think this would add value to the outfit, though, if it's like the other old stuff I have, it will likely be in my possession when they "close the lid". Value schmalu. I'll post a picture of it. Maybe you can call it like it is. Thanks.
Had not heard of the that term "snail hook" When I called CVA years agao they asked if I had the button hook or hook breech plug. Hook being the common one you see all the time, and the botton hook actually having two hooks one on the top and one on the bottom. I was looking for some pics of the two but have not stumbled on any and a friend has my CVA.
I am guessing as old as yours is it is the button hook... It sorta looks like a the number 8 cut in half... Here is a pic of a regular hook style and a botton breech plug would be the same except that there would be another hook directly below the one you see instead of the inclined plane... Found a cva barrel on Ebay with a button breech... bottom pic does that look like yours?
Again, I think you could pick up a 1/48 fairly reasonable from CVA...
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