Idaho - Has changed ML rules

sabotloader · 01-12-2007, 10:09 PM

This caught me and most others by total surprise... I guess it just shows the power of the loud and persistent...

http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/apps/releases/view.cfm?NewsID=3662

If you are from Idaho e-mail bcompton@idfg.idaho.govand voice your opinions...

cayugad · 01-12-2007, 10:34 PM

I was reading that and it looks like the traditional shooters got to the government there. So the Omega's and some of the other disc rifles, Encores, Pro Hunters, etc are all going to be illegal. Would the White even be legal there?

Pglasgow · 01-12-2007, 10:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: sabotloader

This caught me and most others by total surprise...

After reading the reasons, I am not too surprised. Idaho would like to continue issuing the same number licenses while reducing the harvest. The only other option is to reduce the number of licenses.I notice that states where harvest objectives are not met year to year, they have much more liberal muzzleloading definitions.

Am I right ininterpreting that only sidelocks will be allowed?

sabotloader · 01-12-2007, 11:09 PM

cayugad

White? nope - no pivoting hammer...

but there might be a loop hole not that I need it because of the GM LGH barrel that I have..... I just need to re-learn, actualy learn well how to shoot conicals... 10/1,000 was put in to oust PowerBelts and that company is located in Nampa, Idaho.

I believe the traditionals did have the loudest voice and were able to swing this but that is still not the real problem - the real problem goes back to the belief that inlines are comparable to centerfires. It is my belief there is still a pretty big gap between my best inline and my Tikka 300 Win Mag. I can harvest a lot more animals more consistently with that than I will ever be able to get with a ML.

Looks like I am going to have to loacate some 460 NE's and figure out how to shoot them flat....sure flat...

What I need to do is figure out how to get the guns like the Omega - Encore - Apex - Kodiac - Optima to shoot #11 caps... there are exposed pivoting hammers, but require 209 ignition which is also against, and has been, Idaho ML rules. - Scopes also have been and continue to be against the rules.

If somebody made this conversion they might pick up a few bucks in all of the northwestern states...

sabotloader · 01-12-2007, 11:15 PM

Pglasgow

I believe that is the intent... the only problem is that my sidelock Hawken with the GM barrel is really just as good shooter as the inlines... The big difference is going to come in the velocityof the projectile that I can shoot and of course the trajectory...

The unfortunate part is it will not reduce the number of near kills, but bloody animals, that will now occur at ranges people should not be shooting.

For me the worst part is there was never an advisory to the general public, at least a well advertised notice, that this was going to happen in Idaho - Government @ work...

cll · 01-12-2007, 11:47 PM

I can not understand why they went back 20 years for blackpowder. And did away with let off for bows. Would a kahnke rifle be legal ? I think it would along with a tc scout.

Underclocked · 01-13-2007, 12:11 AM

Those rules must have been written by a dedicated team of idiots. Within10/1000ths of WHAT? Define bore diameter (is that groove to groove or land to land... is a .50 caliber consider .500 even though it's .502 or .498... will the agents carry calipers/micrometers?) Define exposed, pivoting hammer? Exposed on all sides, exposed in the middle, exposed on top... can it be attached to the rifle?

cll · 01-13-2007, 12:23 AM

A IDGF game officer told me that the new inlines could shoot 200 yds.And they felt that too many mature bucks were being taken. My reply was that out of 100 muzzleloders that only 2 or 3 could kill a deer at 200 yds with open sights. I asked him If he had ever shot open sights past 100 yds. He had no reply.

todb · 01-13-2007, 12:29 AM

From what I read the ignition cap has to be exposed so that would eliminate the omega, encore and so and so on. What an a$$ backwards
move.

Doegirl75 · 01-13-2007, 01:40 AM

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ORIGINAL: cll

A IDGF game officer told me that the new inlines could shoot 200 yds.And they felt that too many mature bucks were being taken. My reply was that out of 100 muzzleloders that only 2 or 3 could kill a deer at 200 yds with open sights. I asked him If he had ever shot open sights past 100 yds. He had no reply.

They sure can, but just how many (hunters) can actualy shoot that far? Where's this IDGF officer's proof that too many bucks are taken? Much ado about nothing. Worrying about what the select few can do at 200yds as opposed to the VAST MAJORITY who shoots under 100 yds. Why don't they go find something else to do and not waste taxpayer money?