To Butter or Not To Butter?

[keng]

That is my question. I'm both new to the board and new to hunting with afront loader. After 20 years of only shotgun hunting for deer and stubbornly resistingthe plees of the guys I hunt with to get into muzzle loading, my patience paid off and theygiftedme the cash to get one. I chose the .50 Omega, steel barrel with camo stock. I've been reading alot about how to get the most out of the firearm and getting excited about the process of dialing it in. I'll have many questions but I first would like to ask is it better to use "bore butter" or not. I've read a few posts here suggesting I not but the guy at the gun shop sold me the stuff and my buddies use it. I plan to start with 777 pellets under a 250gr shockwave. They also sold me the CCI 209 primers. I'm a little worried about the "crud ring" I've heard about but I plan to swab after each shot during dial in process anyway.

[cayugad]

keng-

You're going to get opinions both ways on this issue. If you were shooting a traditional rifle, I might tell you to give the bore butter a try. Since you picked an Omega, do yourself a favor and use the bore butter on conicals or a better place is the trash can.

Protect your bore with a quality gun oil. Again, this is my opinion. I did the bore butter route and had nothing but bad luck with it. Your results may vary.

[lemoyne]

Any kind of oil with modern sabots causes problems, scrub the bore with dish soap and boiling water or alk. and windshield warsher before you load it with sabots, use the bore butter on patches or conicals to break it in after the bore is polished 777 won't crud ring as bad ;Pyrodex has a softer residue if the crud rings give youproblems some guns seem to have a lot more problem withcrudrings than others. Lee

[sabotloader]

keng

I am a bb users have been every since I started shooting ML's.... I use it in my inlines, traditionals, and the chokes of my trap guns. It has worked well for me in reducing fouling and in the shotgun chokes it reduces plastic fouling. I actually use it to clean the plastic fouling out of the choke.

Like any other product I believe there is a right way and a wrong to use it. It should be used to cake into the barrel. TC has now even made it easier to use. They have created a product called "T17 Muzzleloading Bore Seasoning Patches." Do not believe the bore seasoning thing but reduction of fouling it does. These patches really make it to work with a hot barrel.

Interestingly TC has even labeled the package - "Prevents Rust"

And as you will the ole master Cayugad will be correct, there will be varied opinions from one end of the spectrum to the other.

Even T/C recommends NO bb on inlines with sabot. Conicals fine.

[sabotloader]

bigcountry

I know a lot of people who do use it with sabots to get them to slide in easier and it works really well for them... but that is one of the ways that I think might bewrong - if you cake anything with BB it might come back and bite you.

Another group of people have reacted to the the tobacco stain they see on occasion, BB causes leaching, it forces (leaches) old powder residue trapped in the lands grooves of a gun. We all think we clean really well but it is awful hard to get it all especially down in the chamber area where the powder is driven into the walls with pressure and heat. Back in the day when I was using a copper based BP grease - it was impossible to get it all out of the chamber area as heat and pressure had driven it into the pores.

Again BC, I really think it is the application process that a lot of us screw up. Course that is just my thought. The processworks for me and doesn't for others and that is OK.

[Triple Se7en]

ORIGINAL: keng


To Butter or Not To Butter?

Depends what you're buttering!!!!!!


It's fine forconicals, patches & perhaps a dab on the outside of a tight-fitting sabot... but that's it. No need to season your bores - plus it must be applied perfectly as a bore preservative - otherwise rust will prevail.

[liquidorange]

i havent gotten around to using my omega yet but the video that came with it i could have swore showed them using bore butter to protect the bore from rust. i will have to watch it again. i have had poor rust protecting results with bore butter.it may work but i think after a couple months it dont work as good as gun oil. the whole idea of seasoning may have some merit but i split thing down the middle. i always coat the outside metal on my muzzleloaders with gun oil. the bore gets bore butter only during the hunting season. when it gets put away for long periods in the off season it gets cleaned with hoppes and coated with gun oil inside and out.and regardless of whats in the bore i always run a couple clean patchs through before firing and sometimes will snap a cap off to clean out the petroleum residues.

[FLReb]

Never bothered to use it with Sabots I swabbed after every shot except when I shot my deer and reloaded in my treestand then it went in a little harder but not too bad

[Rebel Hog]

Welcome FlReb! What part?