You know I am hardcore knight fan. Killed dozens of deer with a wolverine, and disc, and currently shoot a elite. They have always been good to me. And I like the vision. But bottom line, its was made too late. A copy of the Omega. I hate to admit it, but T/C has put a proper thrashing on knight. I hate to see it, as knight is really responsible for bringing alot of new developments to the ML inline market. I like T/C too, and started on a hawken, and use my T/C cougar a whole lot. Very good and beutiful gun.
But in business, your either a leader or a follower, or goin downhill.
I am just not sure where knight fell off the ml market. I like the disc concept. But understand why some would not rather buy primer holders.
You know I am hardcore knight fan. Killed dozens of deer with a wolverine, and disc, and currently shoot a elite. They have always been good to me. And I like the vision. But bottom line, its was made too late. A copy of the Omega. I hate to admit it, but T/C has put a proper thrashing on knight. I hate to see it, as knight is really responsible for bringing alot of new developments to the ML inline market. I like T/C too, and started on a hawken, and use my T/C cougar a whole lot. Very good and beutiful gun.
But in business, your either a leader or a follower, or goin downhill.
I am just not sure where knight fell off the ml market. I like the disc concept. But understand why some would not rather buy primer holders.
2002 with the Omega. Then they released the Revolution which didn't do the trick, and the Revolution II and now the Vision. They waited too long, everyone has a head start. Every company has either a break action or a drop action. The Omega is still the muzzleloader to beat.
I think the Pro Hunter is going to be the rifle to beat pretty soon... I still like my Knight rifles.
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I think the Pro Hunter is going to be the rifle to beat pretty soon... I still like my Knight rifles.
I disagree about the Pro Hunter. At $800 a pop it's not for your everyday hunter.
And I agree with you on Knight Rifles. My 50 caliber Extreme isn't going anywhere. That's been my companion on a great many hunts and I don't think it'll change any.
I love em too. And knight has been instrumental in inlines, and 209's and several other things. Seems muzzleloaders or bows or whatever goes thru cycles. For compounds its straightlimb design, for rifles its super magnums or short magnums, for ML its breakopen totally contained primer. Not sure when the next wave of things to come will be.
What I meant about the Pro Hunter is the people willing to spend the extra money for the quality/ high endrifles such as the Knight, and Thompson Center are going to give the Pro Hunter a hard serious look. Also when the new image wears off the Pro Hunter a little, like all the others they will come down in price some places. It surprises me how many people went to the Encore as their choice for a muzzleloader. In the T/C line I personally would have leaned towards the Omega more.
When it comes to inexpensive rifles, CVA and Traditions are going to rule the entry level rifle market for a long time. Granted they also produce a top of the line type rifle, but those people with a couple hundred bucks are not going to be looking at the Knight and Thompson Centers. Although I see Wal Mart carries a beginers pack Omega Z5 with the cleaners, jags, swabs, etc for around $300.00. I'm keeping my eye on that because last year they were dumping the Black Diamonds for next to nothing at their year end.
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What I meant about the Pro Hunter is the people willing to spend the extra money for the quality/ high endrifles such as the Knight, and Thompson Center are going to give the Pro Hunter a hard serious look.
Most of us here knew what you meant Cayugad.You didn'tcomment onwhat sells the most --just what's onmost folksML Inline Dream/Christmas ShoppingList.
The Knight Vision is a nice ML. My only gripe with post-Knight Wolverine Inline designs is their continuance to offer only straight 2X4/non-drop stocks. I think the overall sight planesrequire higher arm lifts - thus longer time to sight-in during a quick shot attempt - when not using a rest. Just don't feel comfortable shouldering the Knights - otherwise I would be owning more than one.
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What I meant about the Pro Hunter is the people willing to spend the extra money for the quality/ high endrifles such as the Knight, and Thompson Center are going to give the Pro Hunter a hard serious look. Also when the new image wears off the Pro Hunter a little, like all the others they will come down in price some places. It surprises me how many people went to the Encore as their choice for a muzzleloader. In the T/C line I personally would have leaned towards the Omega more.
Gotcha. I've always felt though that the Encore is more for the combination hunters. Few of the people that I know of who use them, usethem as muzzy only. I can't imagine the Pro Hunter would be any different. In fact if anything I expect T/C to come out with a Pro Hunter type version of the Omega to meet that niche market.
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