cayugad,Underclocked and anybody else who shoots the Ultra Mag do you wire brush your barrel everytime if your shooting conicals or do you just use a good bore solvent to remove lead fouling?
I do not wire brush the barrel every time. I usually wire brush it about every third time. I do run Birchwood Casey Bore Scrubber on a couple patches and work the barrel over good with that which from my past experiences I find removes about anything in the barrel it comes in contact with.
So far after putting over two hundred conicals through the UM I have yet to see a sign of leading. I think this is due to the fact that I am only pushing them between 1300-1450fps which usually is not a speed where serious leading problems occur.
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I am not a conical shooter so I am not a good source of information, but I am thinking cayugad's reply contains the real answer to leading behind the riflings... The speed @ which you puch them out of the barrel, cayugads charges are not HOT. The moderate charges he uses probably helps keep the leading down.
Cayugad/UC - what about the hardness of the conical? would that be a factor?
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Cayugad/UC - what about the hardness of the conical? would that be a factor?
I feel that lead purity makes a big difference. That's why I insist on only as pure a lead as possible when I shoot muzzleloader projectiles. Of course in the case of the polymer shooters ( a.k.a. the milk jug people ) the sabot protects the bullet from fowling up the barrel when pushing the projectile at the higher speeds I would think.
Sabotloader, did you shoot the conicals that came with the rifle? You must have had some fun with them when they thumped down range.
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I think sabotloader is headed my direction today. We are planning on shooting tomorrow morning. He doesn't know it yet, but he's gunna shoot some of those conicals through his gun.
I am planning to shoot the BullShop 460s w/100 gr of Triple 7 ffg to see if I get any accuracy degredation compared to using 70 grof powder. I am going to have some of the BullShop 620's for sabotloader!
100 grains of Triple Se7en and one of them big conicals.. Just be glad you're not using a scope.
I will be interested in your results though. And make sure Sabotloader pounds some of them big lead buggers. It would be a lot of fun to watch that...
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I am planning to shoot the BullShop 460s w/100 gr of Triple 7 ffg to see if I get any accuracy degredation compared to using 70 grof powder. I am going to have some of the BullShop 620's for sabotloader!
Are you going to let him know they are 620's? 80 grains of T7 with them ought to bea pretty stiff whomp. Could surprise him, or ruin the range session for him if he not prepared for the recoil. Recoil will beclose todouble what he normally shoots. May oughta prepare him for it.
Well, he has been around the block a few times with all this stuff, so I don't think I could pull the wool over his eyes.
The one time I shot a few of the 620's I shot 65 gr of Triple 7. I had been shooting 70 gr of Triple 7 with the 460's and 500's. To tell you the truth, I couldn't tell any difference between them.
In general, I am not very recoil sensitive, but have been nursing a pinched nerve in the right side of my neck. After 3 trips to the Chiropractor I am feeling much better. Hopefully I don't knock it out of whack tomorrow. I am interested to see how the 460s with 100 gr of powder is.
Well, he has been around the block a few times with all this stuff, so I don't think I could pull the wool over his eyes.
The one time I shot a few of the 620's I shot 65 gr of Triple 7. I had been shooting 70 gr of Triple 7 with the 460's and 500's. To tell you the truth, I couldn't tell any difference between them.
In general, I am not very recoil sensitive, but have been nursing a pinched nerve in the right side of my neck. After 3 trips to the Chiropractor I am feeling much better. Hopefully I don't knock it out of whack tomorrow. I am interested to see how the 460s with 100 gr of powder is.
Well i notice that sabotloader has been lurking this thread, so ... cat's out of the bag. He knows the plan caz.
I see you are also one of those wheatie eaters. Let us know how the 460's do with 100 grains.
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a.k.a. the milk jug people 
Just be glad you're not using a scope. 
