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[cayugad]

What are you going to be hunting? By "muzzle loader season" I will guess deer. For this I would try some 240 grain XTP's in a Harvester Black mag .452 sabot. You might also want to get a pack of the crushed rib sabots in case the regular harvesters are hard loading. You might also want to pick up a pack of 250 grain Shockwaves and see how they work.

Another option would be powerbelts. the 245 grain for deer should work just fine on 100 grains of Powder 2f.I would not push the rifle harder then that. You might also want to try some of the 348 grain pure lead powerbelts, again with 100 grains of powder or less. Although I think the 240 grain XTP's should work fine.

The problem with a rifle is while your friends might have the same rifle, what works in their rifles does not mean they will work in yours. All you can do is try different projectiles with different powder charges until you find on that works well for you. Then put it in the boiler room and let the projectile do the rest of the work.

[Sharp Shooter]

I would use a good gun oil instead of bore butter. Just my opinion

[jaybe]

Hi ontario hunter - welcome to the world of Black Powder shooting. cayugad knows his stuff, and I would not presume to correct anything he has said. However, since you admittedly are a newbie at this, perhaps I can just clarify something that many of us take for granted.
When cayugad says, "what works in their rifles does not mean they will work in yours", he doesn't mean they won't work AT ALL - like nor firing or something - he means certain powder and projectile combinations will give different results in different guns. Sometimes this difference is very small, and really has no effect on your ability to kill a deer at 100 yards or so. But to the guy who wants to get the absolutely smallest group on paper that he can, a little difference may mean a lot.
Assuming you're going to be using 209 primers, try to find the Remington Kleenbore, though all brands will work.If you want to use pellets rather than loose powder, use two 50 gr pellets, either Pyrodex or Triple Se7en. Follow the recommended loads in your manual. READ your manual to make sure you understand how your gun works. Once you have used it for a while and gotten used to loading and shooting, you might want to start trying different powders and projectiles. Keep it kind of basic at the beginning.
If you have questions - this is the place to get answers.

[yakfisher]

If you decide to use 777 powder, you might want to try the new Winchester 777 209 primers, if you can find them. I have heard good things about them.

[Triple Se7en]

ORIGINAL: ontario hunter

Hi guys. I've been away for a while and this site is so different now. I need help and wanted to ask here. I just purchased a new Traditions Pursuit LT Muzzel loader. I have a few friends who have them and all have different opinions. I followed instructions on cleaning the gun first time but still need to purchase powder and caps. I have sabots, cleaning stuff and bore butter,etc. Any suggestions as we only get 1 week here for muzzel loader season and I want to be ready. Please assist in help on loading as well. This is new and need help. My buddies will be po'ed for not asking them, but, all have different methods, and they are all right. Thanks.

Contact Traditions emailing them at
info@traditionsfirearms.com

Tell them what powder you like & they will supply you with some suggestions on powder grains to burn & bullet-names.

In most states, you can use a muzzleloader during centerfire and/or shotgun seasons also. Saying you are limited to only one week is hogwash in most states.

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