Things you forget when you DON"T use them

[sabotloader]

I forgot, something related to age probably, you all understand I do not hunt in Washington so I am not faced with the all-lead projectile thing. But I have Trevor's gun box here and last night about 1:00 in the morning i remembered I bought him some all lead bullets for hunting - what the heck did I buy himso I took a look...

Now the debate... I have had some concerns about the 240 "Cheap Shot" being to light and might blow up - Cayugad feels they WILL work just fine and certainly the price is right @ Cabelas....

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0034975214444a&type=product&cm Cat=search&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&QueryText=cheap+shots&N=4887& amp;Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&a mp;Ntt=cheap+shots&noImage=0





But last night I found what I remembered Knight makes an all lead sabot/bullet combination also... Only this combination is the weight I prefer for whitetailing. I do remember (now) shooting these from the second A&H that I gave Trevor and they shot great and they made a terrific thump in the plywood the target was on.... They are little more expensive than Cheap Shots...

http://www.knightrifles.com/catalog.aspx?catid=LeadBullets



So now comes the debate, what wouldyou folks most likely choose?

240 grain Cheap Shot
260 grain Knight
310 grain Knight

Which of these for Washington whitetail?

[kevin1]

I use Cheap Shots a lot , they're perfectly fine for deer . Yes , they will frag sometimes , think of the extra wound channels instead of worrying about it . Foster slugs from my 20 guage frag sometimes , but I still use them .

[cayugad]

which ever one of those produce the best accuracy out of the rifle would be the one I would choose. Any of them will work fine. People need to remember, when you hunt with a .50 caliber roundball they only weigh 177 grains. You've now increased to a 240 grain or better projectile with better ballistics. Put any of them in the right place and you will be needing a drag rope.

[sabotloader]

cayugad

Thanks Dave - I'll let you know - I know the A&H shot the 260's really well - do not know about the Whites yet, but I have not found anything they will not shoot well....

mike

[philnie]

cayugad
My thoughts exactly sir! I've got to tell you, it was pretty cool seeing all these traditional style MLs shooting round balls with better than average accuracy at last Saturday's club shoot. Certainly better than "minute of deer/elk!" And some of these guys made their own ball projectiles custom fit to their specific shooting needs/barrels. Two ofthem have taken elk multiple seasons using the same balls, but upping the powder charge to what they'd called elk loads (as opposed to the target loads they were shooting that day).

By this same reasoning, isn't the (Civil War era) minnie ball and now the ball-ett just a smallish conical and has the same terminal performance potential approaching the larger conicals while improving BC/accurace over traditional ball projectiles?

Great stuff guys- thanks again for all the info!
phil