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Old 05-16-2006, 09:17 PM   #1
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For you guys that shoot muzzleloaders. Do you use pellets or the powered. Also how can I deside on the grain size of my sabot?
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Old 05-16-2006, 09:31 PM   #2
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Used the pellets but Igraduated to the loose. You can find out what your gun likes for loads this way. Loose is the way to go IMO. My CVA optima pro shoots a 90 gr load of 777 with a 250 gr Shockwave or 250 gr SST into a nice 1'' group at 100 yds. I also read that no two pellets will actually way the same. Loose powder is easy and very precise and I like to be the best in accuracy as I can. I carry a speedloader and I can reload as fast as pellets can. I have never needed a fast reload though...one shot...one dead deer.
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Old 05-17-2006, 02:30 AM   #3
 
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pellets,more convenient,quicker reloads
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Old 05-17-2006, 04:38 AM   #4
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I use both , but mostly loose since I shoot a .54 . It's tough to find pellets at a decent price for them , the local stores don't carry them at all , and buying a minimum four boxes online is too expensive for me . In my .50 I use pellets exclusively .
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Old 05-17-2006, 05:59 AM   #5
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It really dependes. Pellets will perform with well enough for hunting and yu will beable to get ok groups. But if you want to be able to get the best performance from your gun go with loose powder as yu can adjust this down to the exact charge your gun likes. I will bet my bottom dollar that your gun will not shoot its best at 50 gr incraments. You have plenty of time between now and hunting season to work up that perfect load. So its up to you on how well you want to shoot. Spend a little time in the muzzle loader section for more advice and tips. Mike
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Old 05-17-2006, 07:06 AM   #6
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I use pellets now but used to use loose powder until I missed and the deer was still in sight and looking around. I had to re-load and got excited and spilled most of the powder in the snow all around the barrel. The arguement about the gun sjhooting well in 50 gr increments is an issue though. I like to shoot around 120 gr and don't get the best performance with 100. 150 will cause some bullets to fly resulting in poor patterns. I went with 150 and tried different bullets until I could get one that patterned well.
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Old 05-17-2006, 08:08 PM   #7
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Go to huntingnet's blackpowder forum. Those guys are a ton of help.
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Old 05-18-2006, 08:18 AM   #8
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I prefer loose powder over pellets every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Loose powder is not that complicated nor difficult to manage plus:
[ol][*]Loose powder isabout 30-40% less expensive than pellets.[*]Allows for a virtually infinite range of load developments. You can tailor loads to various projectiles by altering your powder charges in as little as 5gr increments (my preferance).[*]With pellets for 50 caliber (most common), they come in either 30 or 50 grain flavor and sometimes good luck finding the 30gr,and as such you havea fixed charge configurations of either a 30, 50, 60, 80, 90, 100, 120, 130 or 150gr if you ML is rated for such a charge. I have many(at least half)pet loads that are more accuratethat fall in-between the available pellet charge options.[*]In speedloader in a hunting situation, loose powder is just as quick to load as pellets.[/ol]
Regarding your second question, I'm guessing you are wondering the weight of your projectile? Depends on the caliber and what you plan on hunting.

If 50 caliber and deer, the following projectiles are often very effective with a wide variety of ML's and powders(loose or pellet). However, you won't know until you get an ML, pick a powder and accessories and try different projectiles.

Some of my favorites. I've harvested over 100 deer with one of the following and can normally get these to shoot in just about any rifle:
Hornady 240gr XTP. (.430" (44cal) pistol bullet and sabot).
Hornady 250gr XTP MAG. (.452" (45cal) pistol bullet and sabot).
Hornady 250gr SST (.452" ML bullet and sabot).

Conicals can also be a great choice for ML hunting.

Let's not forget a ML more geared towards Patch and Roundball. Always fun to shoot and very lethal.

Also, search through the forum under the Black Powder section for some of your questions. Lot's of great info in there.

Lot's of really knowledgeable folks here.

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Old 05-18-2006, 12:40 PM   #9
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For you guys that shoot muzzleloaders. Do you use pellets or the powered. Also how can I deside on the grain size of my sabot?
Your CVA prefers 240, 250, 260, 275 & 300 gr sabot/bullets & 295/348 gr. Powerbelts.

Many regular posters hereuse multiple jugs of powder per year. Itmakes more economical sense to buy loose powder.... more economicalsense to buy bulk pistol bullets & plasticsabots in 50-pks.
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Old 05-19-2006, 07:30 AM   #10
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Oh man here we go with the power belts again. I woulden't use these for hunting it they were the last projestial around. My experience with these on deer are well known to those who use this thread. Lousy blood trail if any and they just about shatter in the deer. If my word is no good then find out for yourself if you want. I know some folks swear by these as they load easy and group well wich is great for killing paper but in the hunting woods they stink plane and simple. Mike
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