Thanks to Ed Mehlig and Gary (Contendernut), Bullshop will soon have a .410-385, .451-460, and.504-495 moulds (Bob Bowers aka Super91 designed) to fill our orders!!! BIG thanks to those guys! Soon, in this case, means within just a few weeks, hopefully two or three. The NEW bullets are proven performers in any number of appropriate rifles (many Knights will shoot great with those bullets). Some extremely impressivegroups have been fired with them.
For those of you not familiar with Bullshop, his is a family run operation out of Delta Junction, Alaska. I recently ordered 500 of a lubed and sized.451 421 grain conical he was able to make and deliver for atotal cost of $105 to my Missouri location. His prices (subject to lead cost fluctuations) are fantastic and level of quality is quite high.
Here's a link to his pricing http://bullshop.gunloads.com/prices.html. Those prices can flutuate a bit also based upon any special needs (such as an additional sizing effort for my bullets) but they are still fantastic in today's world.
My first attempt at shooting his bullets was a no-counter that some bad scope rings turned into a wasted trip. Second effort with my White 98 was done in a hurry as rain was closing in. The vertical spread in this group of 8 shots can be attributed to not-so-careful thrown charges, not-so-careful seating pressure, and just plain operator error especially with regard to shots 3 and 5. The horizontal spread is only about 7/16" in spite of those negative factors.
These are extremely good conicals even though the original mould was intended to drop a bullet for .458 rifles. Not so with the NEW moulds he will have coming, they are designed specifically for muzzleloaders.
Please check your bore size (land to land) and order that exact diameter or perhaps as much as .001 larger if you wish to try some nice conicals. No custom caster could be responsible for your ordering the incorrect size of bullet.
These should be a great alternative to PRBullet conicals as well as the NoExcuses (or store bought varieties) at extremely competitive prices.
Needless to say, I will be interested. Thanks for the link.
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Put together a pic of what Bullshop is currently set up to make for the .504 and .451 calibers. He can size differently if needed (within limits of his available sizer dies). There will be at least two or more offerings to come in those calibers when the moulds arrive there.
You'll have to contact Bullshop Dan for his prices - but they will be very reasonable.
Moderators, please remove this if you feel it is too much like an unpaid advertisement. I'm just trying to save folks money while getting enough business going Bullshop's way to assure a continuing economical supply of good conicals from him. There is nothing else in it for me (not even a discount, darn it!).
Will the other .504 be that 495 grain that everyone claims such great accuracy out of the White rifles with? If it is I will be interested in getting some of them to see how they work.
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Yes, that will be one of the moulds that shouldsoon be in his hands. It was ordered quite some time ago by one of the DWBs and he has arranged to have his moulds (a .410 bullet of similar design also) sent directly to Bullshop. He also has a .451 460 grain NEW mould enroute, and possibly a 460 grain .503/.504NElook-alike mould yet to come.
The NEW bullet design is the one Bob Bowers came up with and shoots great. The NEs - you know the NEs.
Big6x6 and n8dawg6 are both wanting some of those NEI 500 grainers. Maybe we should do a group order (really not much of an advantage though given most of us are spread about). Those look amazingly like NEs to me at least.
What diameter would you feel they should be taken to? .503 or .504 ? The do look like a NE.
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"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, a total wreck, screaming Yahoo, with a big smile on your face."
I shot some Hunterman conicals that had only one shallow knurled ring around the bullet with a bit of lube in the knurling. VERY little lube on that bullet but it shot just fine and didn't lead at all.
Wait 'til you get a chance to lay hands on one of these Bullshop bullets with that #2 lube on it. Pretty amazing lube formula...what's on those bullets is plenty!
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