Reducing the buffalo in Yellowstone
#13
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at least that is what the PC police would have us believe.
truth is they kept what they could carry and the rest went to the varmints
#14
One of my best friends is a full blooded Cheyenne. I think he's one of the most honest persons I know. We talk a lot about the old days. Indians pass on everything through the generations. What you read, and what the truth is may not be even close. They let nothing go to waste.
Had I lived back in those days, and I wish I had. I know who's side I would have been on. I would have hunted the buffalo hunters.
Had I lived back in those days, and I wish I had. I know who's side I would have been on. I would have hunted the buffalo hunters.
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[QUOTE=Muley Hunter;4238112]One of my best friends is a full blooded Cheyenne. I think he's one of the most honest persons I know. We talk a lot about the old days. Indians pass on everything through the generations. What you read, and what the truth is may not be even close. They let nothing go to waste..........
Native Americans are remarkable people. Most people that have heard the term "indian giver" have no clue what it really means. I go to and enjoy many pow wows each year and their creative ability is something to see.
Native Americans are remarkable people. Most people that have heard the term "indian giver" have no clue what it really means. I go to and enjoy many pow wows each year and their creative ability is something to see.
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One of my best friends is a full blooded Cheyenne. I think he's one of the most honest persons I know. We talk a lot about the old days. Indians pass on everything through the generations. What you read, and what the truth is may not be even close. They let nothing go to waste.
Had I lived back in those days, and I wish I had. I know who's side I would have been on. I would have hunted the buffalo hunters.
Had I lived back in those days, and I wish I had. I know who's side I would have been on. I would have hunted the buffalo hunters.
that is bs. but it's ok. go right on believing it. I have no doubt your friend believes it to.
they may have used every part of the animal. I would agree with that. just not every animal , they killed.
you can argue that, but we both know it is true.
#17
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Not true. There is a buffalo jump by Joes, CO and when they scientists took a look at it they found that many of the carcasses had no butchering marks on the bones and many of the skeletons had not been disarticulated. Similar things have been found at other buffalo jumps in the plains areas.
Half of my family line is Arapaho and I'm as pro-Native American as anyone I know but I'm never going to claim they were perfect in all they did. The natives weren't as bad as the whites but to say they wasted nothing is simply not correct. When they had a couple hundred dead bison in one place and no refrigeration/freezers available they couldn't process all the carcasses before they began to spoil.
Half of my family line is Arapaho and I'm as pro-Native American as anyone I know but I'm never going to claim they were perfect in all they did. The natives weren't as bad as the whites but to say they wasted nothing is simply not correct. When they had a couple hundred dead bison in one place and no refrigeration/freezers available they couldn't process all the carcasses before they began to spoil.
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Not true. There is a buffalo jump by Joes, CO and when they scientists took a look at it they found that many of the carcasses had no butchering marks on the bones and many of the skeletons had not been disarticulated. Similar things have been found at other buffalo jumps in the plains areas.
Half of my family line is Arapaho and I'm as pro-Native American as anyone I know but I'm never going to claim they were perfect in all they did. The natives weren't as bad as the whites but to say they wasted nothing is simply not correct. When they had a couple hundred dead bison in one place and no refrigeration/freezers available they couldn't process all the carcasses before they began to spoil.
Half of my family line is Arapaho and I'm as pro-Native American as anyone I know but I'm never going to claim they were perfect in all they did. The natives weren't as bad as the whites but to say they wasted nothing is simply not correct. When they had a couple hundred dead bison in one place and no refrigeration/freezers available they couldn't process all the carcasses before they began to spoil.
who was worst? that's like telling GOD," his sin was worst then mine."
#19
I agree, the native Americans got the short end of the stick during the expansion of this country and the term Indian giver should have been white man giver because it was the whites who broke their word and took back what they agreed was for the Indians . I appreciate the skills they developed in supplying food and protection for their tribes. However, that doesn't mean I believe the myths about not wasting anything or that they were the first conservationists. They did what they did to survive and there is no shame in that, but not all the stories you hear about them are true, just like any other race of people.
#20
It's more complicated than they didn't take all the animals that went over the cliffs. They had strong beliefs, and they had their reasons. It was also a crude way for conservation. If the white man had never showed up. The bison herds would still be strong now.
Here's a good article on it if you want to take the time to read it all.
http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/...ys/buffalo.htm
Here's a good article on it if you want to take the time to read it all.
http://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/...ys/buffalo.htm