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Old 07-09-2007, 03:20 PM   #1
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Subtitle: Morons on Big Game Calibers.

Anyone read the July issue of Field & Stream? Yours truly is feeling pretty darned smug about right now! It appears that David Petzal stole my ideas that I posted on here a few weeks ago on caliber for elk/elephant/Jabba the Hut.

Mr. Petzal listed the 270 as his #2 all-around caliber (behind only the 30-06), described as a rifle for anything bigger than a prairie dog and smaller than a brown bear. His rationale - Listen up sports fans, 'cause ole Dan been tellin' yall this fer a while - is that in times past the 270 might have been a bit light to rank this highly, but with the new premium bullet designs, things have changed.

Yuk, yuk, yuk, I love to stick it to the shoulder cannon brigade. Macho men who think the size of their rifle/truck/elk bugle/whatever gives them an edge with the ladies make me snicker.
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Read that too-kind of surprised me after all the info. I have read about. I believe it though. Too bad he had to steal your ideas right?
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Old 07-09-2007, 05:13 PM   #3
 
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ya 270's have been killing elk for a long time. and i think they still know how too.
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Old 07-09-2007, 06:20 PM   #4
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It isn't the size it is how you use it.
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Old 07-09-2007, 07:45 PM   #5
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You got that right.
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Old 07-09-2007, 10:07 PM   #6
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Subtitle: Morons on Big Game Calibers.

Anyone read the July issue of Field & Stream? Yours truly is feeling pretty darned smug about right now! It appears that David Petzal stole my ideas that I posted on here a few weeks ago on caliber for elk/elephant/Jabba the Hut.

Mr. Petzal listed the 270 as his #2 all-around caliber (behind only the 30-06), described as a rifle for anything bigger than a prairie dog and smaller than a brown bear. His rationale - Listen up sports fans, 'cause ole Dan been tellin' yall this fer a while - is that in times past the 270 might have been a bit light to rank this highly, but with the new premium bullet designs, things have changed.

Yuk, yuk, yuk, I love to stick it to the shoulder cannon brigade. Macho men who think the size of their rifle/truck/elk bugle/whatever gives them an edge with the ladies make me snicker.
Sinking to your level for a moment....
I'm glad you've found a gun rag writer that sets your heart a twitter-patter, there is a flavor of writer out there for every groupee.
Google his name.... I'm thinking you may wish to re-examine the qualifications of your sex idol.

Even if one were to accept the argument at 110% of face value, just one problem, most folks that are too cheap to buy a rifle proportionate to their quarry are also too cheap to buy premium ammo. For those who do actually spring for the premium ammo and fine tune with it, then it is a helpful band-aid to stick upon a needy problem. According to the billing,the "new bullets"appear toclaim to kinda provide some sort of "Viagra for your rifle".... but remember, if you leave your gun loaded for more than 4 hours, then seek the help of a professional gunsmith immediately.
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On a more rational note:
Somehow I have a hard time believing that the "new stuff" bullets has much of an edge (if any)over the Nosler Partitions and Barnes X's I have used for so long.I ownand have experience with the smallsmall cartridges and also the much bigger stuff and most of what is in between; for elk I like the results I see from cartridges 30-06 and up with "heavy for caliber" quality bullets and don't like much what I've seen down in the "just-get-by" cartridgesin the range of "270 and under" regardless what was shot in them. Even with the so called "new bullets" the velocity is the same, the weight is the same, thus the energy is the same, there is no increase in frontal impact surface, no change in Taylor KO score.

Good luck with the deer rifle Lovefest; however,methinks you excite much too easily.
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:49 AM   #7
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Weight + Energy= Penetration! No otherway around it. I'm sure we'llrecover those new bullets this season at the cleaning shed and will post results as they turn up.
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David Petzal is not a sex idol, it's not on the Google results. All of the results are about him being a firearmexpert.
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First off let me say that I'm not a 270 basher. Still, I have a problem with the rationale of "new premium bullets"improving a previously "too light" cartridge. So back up, The Nosler Partition &Swift A Frame have been around for a long time. I've yet to see any of the new bullets significantly out perform them. So the argument does not hold water. I've never been one of those guys that said the 270 was inadequate I simply stated that I prefer a slightly larger weapon. You can't have itboth ways.You can't say in one breath that the cartridge was "too light", and then in the next say that the new super duper puper bullets fix it.
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He said the 25-06 and the 257 robertsaregreat deer calibers as well. But he failed to mention the 257 wby mag. It has a higher fps,and deliversmore energy than either (it is very close to the 270), it alsoshoots scary flat, and is VERY accurate. It is no wonder itwas Roy Weatherby's favorite caliber.

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