I see that non-residents are forbidden to hunt Wyoming wilderness areas without a guide. As a non-resident this provision rankles me considerably. What are the consequences of disregarding this provision and hunting a wilderness area unguided? How would the authorities get wise to a non-resident violating this provision? Is this something which is largely unenforced or is Wyoming serious about asserting this requirement?
I agree with you that it is total BS. I'm not sure but I would guess that they will disallow your tag application unless you show proof that you have a "guide". I also think that a Wyoming resident can serve as your guide.
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"Well, If'n I had me a horse pistol like that.... I wouldn't be afraid of no bogger man." Rooster Cogburn
But some units are part wilderness/part non-wilderness. For example, if I put in for Unit 45 -- part of which is in wilderness and part of which is NOT in wilderness, why would I be required to show proof of being hooked up with a guide? I also understand there is no such requirement if you want to go backpacking in a wilderness area. Someone ought to bring a class action lawsuit on behalf of non-resident hunters against Wyoming for this provision. Seems a transparent shill for the outfitters.
Oh lets not get lawyers involved if we can keep from it. Lets all write letters to Wyoming Game & Fish. We could also contact the SCI and ask them to tackle it. It certainly is peculiar.
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"Well, If'n I had me a horse pistol like that.... I wouldn't be afraid of no bogger man." Rooster Cogburn
I think they do that becuase it costs alot to put out a S&R for someone that has been lost. Not that a resident would not get lost but a non res. unfamiliar with the area has a higher chance at getting lost.
May also be something to do with the Grizzly bears who knows. I lived in Wyoming for 18 years and now live in Nebraska. When I go back to hunt I do not worry about it, I go into the wilderness areas anyway. Whats the difference in not living there at the moment but hunting there all my life?
Shatodavis: I'm not going to get the lawyers involved. I'm not going to do anything. I'm just idly bellyaching is all. My immediate plans for future elk hunting are directed to Colorado -- closer to my home in Texas and more elk. There is a lot of wilderness in Colorado that I can hunt and not have to hook up with a guide.
I was implying that you where going to get lawyers invlovedd.. But, I don't like it either. I would like to see it changed.
Wheatley,
I don't see how a hiker is any less likely to get lost or come into contact with grizzlies. If a hiker is allowed in the wilderness areas why not a non res hunter.
I just wish I was in the mountains chasing something right now. Good news is that its just a couple of weeks before I'll be antelope hunting. I know the plains aren't the same as the mountains but at least I'll be out from behind this damn desk.
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"Well, If'n I had me a horse pistol like that.... I wouldn't be afraid of no bogger man." Rooster Cogburn
No. Alaskan guide requirements are species-specific, not area-specific. You can hunt anywhere in Alaska without a guide. Nonresidents must have a guide to hunt grizzlies, Dall Sheep, and mountain goat. Moose, caribou, deer, elk, and birds do not require a guide.
Wyoming non-res hunt elk in wilderness area
