Lookin to get a new rifle to carryup and down the hills out west this year for elk and mule deer currently have a 300RUM lookin for a light-weight rifle in either a 300WSM or 300REM short action any recomendiations? I also heard about some lawsuit about the WSM's is this true I think they called it 'THE JAMISON LAWSUIT" any truth to this?
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My Remington rifles -
Model 7's a predator 243 Win. and Stainless/synthetic 300 SAUM.
Model 700's- SPS stainless 7mm RUM, XCR II 300 RUM and 338 Win mag
Just my opinion, but I would stick to the .300RUM load up some good 180's and you'll be set for both elk and deer. I myself do shoot the .300 RUM when I am not packing a bow. I don't know where in the west you plan on hunting but sometimes the shots tend to be long. Provided you can shoot yourrifleaccuratly I would choose it over the .300 WSM or .300 RSAUM.If you are dead set on buying a new rifle, wellbetween the two youmentionedI would choose the .300 WSM. I think in a few years the remingtonshort magwill be a thing of the past. I haven't heard of any law suitabout the WSM's, but they aregoing strong and manufactures sell a lot of them. Ihave a .270 WSM on layway right now, it will bemy new deer rifle/coyote toy. Iknow it could take down a elk too, but ifelk is on themenu I'll still choose the .300 RUM any day of the week.If you are worried about weightbetween the .300 RUM and a .300 WSM the difference will be at most 2 pounds.Also think of this if you are having a hard time packing a rifle in where you are hunting, think of how hard its going to be to pack a deer or even a elk out. Iask people if they can't hack packing in the weight of a pack plus their weapon then how in the heck are they planning to pack the animal out? Something to think about!
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Just my opinion, but I would stick to the .300RUM load up some good 180's and you'll be set for both elk and deer. I myself do shoot the .300 RUM when I am not packing a bow. I don't know where in the west you plan on hunting but sometimes the shots tend to be long. Provided you can shoot yourrifleaccuratly I would choose it over the .300 WSM or .300 RSAUM.If you are dead set on buying a new rifle, wellbetween the two youmentionedI would choose the .300 WSM. I think in a few years the remingtonshort magwill be a thing of the past. I haven't heard of any law suitabout the WSM's, but they aregoing strong and manufactures sell a lot of them. Ihave a .270 WSM on layway right now, it will bemy new deer rifle/coyote toy. Iknow it could take down a elk too, but ifelk is on themenu I'll still choose the .300 RUM any day of the week.If you are worried about weightbetween the .300 RUM and a .300 WSM the difference will be at most 2 pounds.Also think of this if you are having a hard time packing a rifle in where you are hunting, think of how hard its going to be to pack a deer or even a elk out. Iask people if they can't hack packing in the weight of a pack plus their weapon then how in the heck are they planning to pack the animal out? Something to think about!
I couldn't agree more. You already have an excellent rifle, so buying a new 300 WSM or SAUM would be a waste of money. Like idahoelkinstructor said, you really won't save much weight with a short action rifle, and if you can't pack around a normal rifle elk hunting you're going to be SOL if you get an elk down. Use all of that money to buy something else, like a nice spotting scope, a good frame pack, boots, or in light of the rising gas prices, gas to get out here.
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Stick to your 300 ultra mag, I've dropped my last two elk, and my only mule deer with mine. The elk are just dying for me to use mine!
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I hve heard some bad things about the Ultra Mag rounds and how they wear out a barrel and chamber pretty quickly. The life cycle of one of those rifles is somewhere in the couple thousand rounds range. Just MO, but I stay away from them for that reason.
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The normal wear in a 300 RUM will last the life of the owner.I've had 3 and still own one.I love the 300 RUM and a big fan of the .338 RUM.
I wouldn't switch from what your using,I have owned the 300wsm and it is great little round as is the 270 wsm.If you are realy worried about weight,not being a a$$ go on a diet and start working out,drop 10lbs and then gain 10 lbs of muscle and the 300 RUM will seem like a 6lb gun on opening day.
BBJ
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I'd recommend taking a close look at a .300 WM Tikka.
I've read a number of articles that say that in a number of tests, mag. short calibers have not performed as well in the tightness of shot groupings as the same caliber and rifle in the standard size brass. I personally see little advantage to a short mag. other than a slight different in bolt travel.
To tell you what U.S. Military thinks of accuracy of calibers. The predominant sniper training and rifle they use is .300 WM for accuracy. I know they have .50 rifles too. But those obviously doubt translate into civilian rifles for hunting purposes.
I've found .300 WM Tikka with a very good quality scope and premium loads to be excellent (sub 1 MOA) at 100 and 200 yards.
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