RE: 45-70 or 450 marlin?
My buddy's dad wanted a brush gun, He said he was sick of his .270 bullets getting deflected by those tiny twigs you cant see in your scope. so he went and bought this used .450... me and my buddy were in the garage when the guy came home after his first range visit with his new gun. Anyway he gets out of the truck with blood all over his face and one eye swelled almost shut, just kinda looks at us, and muttered the immortal line....
We too just about died laughing.