I own a lot of binocs over thenyears and currently have about 6 pair of varying prices but to fill in re the low cost binocs and the reference to none being great, i will tell you the leupold yosemite bx1 8x30 or 6x30 porros are terrific. Bought a pair for my daughter and absolutely love them, light way, clear and bright plus compact. Not the best all around necessarily but really nice and only about 80$