I love em. There my alltime favorit sp. Ive tried most the sp on tge market and these shoot the best and remind me of a partition on game perfect bullet. Ive killed 5 deer a dog and a ghog with em all 1shot stops. The deer ranged fron 30yds to 275yds 3droped on the spot the others didnt go over 30yds. All pass threws and leave huge bloodtrails. Id use em on bear and hogs anyday.